Point/Counterpoint
April 2nd, 2007 at 9:46 am by Preston Taylor HolmesPOINT: Fire can’t melt steel. What are you crazy?
“This is the first time in history that fire has ever melted steel.” – Fat, lesbian vampire bat Rosie O’Donnell
COUNTERPOINT: Well, actually, that’s kind of how steel is made.
“I beg to differ.” – Anonymous Traditional country blacksmith.
With a staggering intellect like that, she fits right in with the Truthers™, don’t she?
UPDATE: For the Seussian version… TNOYF. A snippet:
“As I’ve said I’m the Larynx, and I speak for Iran
and for poor freedom fighters in Afghanistan.
I also stand tall with the Hezbollah lads
who, if you take the time to know, aren’t really half bad.
In fact you will find they’re like me and like you,
just with slight ticking sounds and the faintest ‘kabooms’.
What do these poor Muslim folks have in common besides a disdain for booze?
Why they’ve been vilified by that foul Bush and his Jews!”
and for poor freedom fighters in Afghanistan.
I also stand tall with the Hezbollah lads
who, if you take the time to know, aren’t really half bad.
In fact you will find they’re like me and like you,
just with slight ticking sounds and the faintest ‘kabooms’.
What do these poor Muslim folks have in common besides a disdain for booze?
Why they’ve been vilified by that foul Bush and his Jews!”
April 2nd, 2007 at 10:36 am
Sure, fire can’t melt steel, but that face could stop a runaway locomotive.
April 2nd, 2007 at 12:36 pm
Oh come on Holmes, everybody knows that fire is not hot, water is not wet, up is now down, black is now white, good is now evil and the hog headed skank is now super fine. Really,, you should try and get with the program.
April 2nd, 2007 at 12:48 pm
You make a good point, Swampy. I’ll try to re-calibrate my thinking.
April 2nd, 2007 at 4:19 pm
There goes Swampy, insulting hog headed skanks everywhere again.
April 3rd, 2007 at 7:05 am
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April 3rd, 2007 at 8:31 am
Swampy,
2 plus 2 is 5 as well. Believe me, I know from experience.
I got pelted a bit by some drunk liberal friends last night. I tried using logic and reason against them, but I felt like I had brought guns to a rubber chicken fight. They are so beyond reasoning with I had to give up and say 2 plus 2 is 5 just so I could go home.
April 3rd, 2007 at 12:33 pm
“I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together…”
Just something I was thinking about as I ready Michele’s comment…
April 3rd, 2007 at 12:47 pm
Ya don’t need to melt the steel to make it fail, either.
Ask me how I know this.
April 3rd, 2007 at 1:44 pm
How do you know this?
Oh wait. You’re an architect?
I hardly see how that qualifies you to know more about structural engineering than I do. Your are probably just another member of Bush’s lying cabal.
April 3rd, 2007 at 2:37 pm
Most of the people who actually watch Rosie are from the rightwing. They just can’t seem to get enough of her ! When they are challenged by their own sense of the world collapsing aroumd them Rosie DOES make them feel better…… about being themselves.
April 3rd, 2007 at 4:31 pm
Gosh J. Ryan…you are an idiot.
Would you care to elaborate as to where you got that theory? Is it from the same place you came up with the percentages of Jews that voted Democrat?
(Like that would even matter)
April 3rd, 2007 at 6:06 pm
When they are challenged by their own sense of the world collapsing aroumd them…
My sense is supported by steel girders, so it’s impossible for it to collapse. No way it collapses. Nuh-uh.
April 4th, 2007 at 12:25 am
Careful with your imperial hubris there, AD. Lest John Ryan bring down your intellectual house of cards with the controlled demolition of his impervious logic and irrefutable evidence of daytime chick-chat Nielsens.
Previous run-ins with this trolling titan have extinguished even the bravest of flame warriors. No argument to date has leaked through his tin foil hat due to its patented tri-fold design and ingenius panty shield lining.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:23 pm
Smantix,
Did I mention it was reinforced steel – steel coated in special, flame-retardant pixie dust?
April 6th, 2007 at 9:15 am
For those who are skeptics, good for you. We should all do our own research in regards to what is happening in our country. Five quick questions that can get your research started are as follows:
1) What was George H.W. Bush talking about in this clip? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo
2 )What did Marvin Bush (George’s brother) do before and the years leading up to September, 11th?
3) Who were the tenants of World Trade Center Building 7?
4) How did building 7 fall?
5) Can you find video that shows a plane hitting the Pentagon?*
*Not the 5 frames released from the government that show a vapor trail. Remember, this building is the hub of our national defense. There should be video showing a discernable plane. Please provide the link if you find it.
Remember, it’s not your party that’s worth fighting for – it’s your country.
All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing; EDMUND BURKE
April 6th, 2007 at 12:14 pm
Indeed. Just as “everyone is entitled to be stupid but some abuse the privilege”.
April 6th, 2007 at 12:25 pm
Hey Dylan Avery…if you are going to bring your looney crap in here, at least use your real name. I don’t think Preston allows sock-puppets…
April 6th, 2007 at 4:56 pm
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April 6th, 2007 at 5:01 pm
u guys r
BRAINWASHED
by rove & his
lackies
now its time
2
hang from the ceiling
April 6th, 2007 at 5:47 pm
Michele -
Just quote Tom Paine at them and go home to bed.
“To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.”
April 6th, 2007 at 6:34 pm
Steve, is the comment (Friday, April 6, 2007 @ 9:15 am) a parody? One can’t always be sure.
If not, then prove that the moon isn’t made of blue cheese, and don’t give me that supposed moonwalking video indicating old planet debris with a U.S. flag stuck in it. If Capricorn One told us anything, it told us that neither OJ nor Neil Armstrong ever played golf on the moon. So, we really don’t know what that thing is made of. I still submit it’s the blue cheese I read about when I was a toddler.
Making sense of the absurd is a fool’s errand. Wasting time writing it down doubly so (even though I appreciate the Popular Mechanics of the world sparing us the effort).
April 7th, 2007 at 12:50 am
AnonymousDrive, No parody – just five easy questions. You seemed to have not answered any.
Your Popular Mechanics boy; “That building (7) fell because the attacks of 911”. Well, that explains everything. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7662155993987981937&q=911+prestige&hl=en
April 7th, 2007 at 8:06 am
Well, looks like Steve’s got us. Let’s all pack up and go home.
April 7th, 2007 at 8:22 am
Previous run-ins with this trolling titan have extinguished even the bravest of flame warriors. No argument to date has leaked through his tin foil hat due to its patented tri-fold design and ingenius panty shield lining.
Smantix, you magnificent bastard. I’m proud to blog along side you.
April 7th, 2007 at 10:13 am
Let me guess….Steve does not put food on his table with his engineering knowledge.
April 7th, 2007 at 11:16 am
Let me guess…Steve lives in his mother’s basement.
Dude, put down the weed and stop watching Rosie. I think you are the special kind of asshole Penn and Teller are talking about.
April 7th, 2007 at 3:33 pm
I’m writing to ask you to quit calling Rosie fat. I happen to know she’s over compensating for her problems with anorexia and bulimia.
April 7th, 2007 at 4:20 pm
RE: Steve (Saturday, April 7, 2007 @ 12:50 am)
AnonymousDrive, No parody – just five easy questions. You seemed to have not answered any.
And you’ll find that I’m still not trying to answer any. It’s a ludicrous contrivance that some fringe of the fringe have assembled either as 1) a multi-year April Fool’s joke just to see if they can get away with it, 2) a partisan hit job a la Wilson/Plame to throw anything that isn’t nailed down to discredit their political nemesis, truth be damned, 3) opportunistic capitalists who see a way to make a buck by perpetuating a fiction in the hopes of getting a movie contract for a receptive Hollywood, or 4) a cathartic grunt from paranoids. It could be any, all, or none of the above, but I’m not going to obsess about deciphering every possibility available any further since such discussions – even when ridiculing them – provide undeserved attention. As they say, there is no such thing as bad publicity. It’s counterproductive to give these loons and their sycophants the publicity.
It’s probably unfair at this point to repeat since I’ve written around your question rather than in response to it, but I’ll ask anyway:
“Prove that the moon isn’t made of blue cheese.”
April 8th, 2007 at 9:11 pm
Appearently, since fire doesnt melt steel, and white is black, the babelfish must exist. Beware of Zebras.
April 9th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
You are a chicken shit for not publishing my answer. Create a BLOG and then censor free speech. You’re a few meats short of a buffet. I guess it’s easier just to deal with sycophants. Here it is again if you have the balls;
Still no answers? I’ll help you with one; http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12818225/
“Zee Plane!, Zee Plane!”; Tattoo. “I see it too!” you sheeple. I can’t drive through an intersection without being recorded. The hub of our national defense and this is the best surveillance video? If you can find better, I’d like to see it.
Take out a dollar and see who issued it. The Federal Reserve Bank is no more a government entity than Federal Express. This means it is in private hands. Do you know who these hands belong to? They went to extremes to organize it. Do you not think they would go to extremes to keep it?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198&q=freedom+to+fascism&hl=en
As far as the Penn and Teller bullshit, they need to acknowledge their own. He starts by saying 49% of New Yorkers believe the government had something to do with 911. Do you not think New Yorkers would be a pretty good authority on New York? He goes on to lump these in folks in with those who believe we didn’t land on the moon. That’s magic. That psycho babbling special fat chick who looks like Penn’s sister sure has some interesting UFO views among others.
http://people.hws.edu/dean/jodi_cv.html
Penn and Teller depend on a gullible audience. All magic does. At this point in its history – America is a gullible audience.
April 9th, 2007 at 3:51 pm
Steve…
What I REALLY wanted to post was the South Park episode on truthers. Thanks to youtube, it is no longer available. The Penn and Teller link was not to “prove” a point other than truthers like you are a joke.
If you want your views out there…start your OWN blog. Then you can howl at the moon to your heart’s content.
I’d be curious to how much rent your mother charges you to live in her basement.
Oh…and by the way…be VERY careful. The CIA has wired your phone, and you are getting too close. You’ve been warned.
April 9th, 2007 at 4:36 pm
Steve, you ignorant slut. There is no free speech here. There is the speech that we allow/tolerate. And that’s just the way it fucking is.
You’re just lucky I happened to notice your comment bilge swirling around the bowl of the spam filter and fished it out with a fecal fishing net.
I may or may not do so in the future, depending on my mood. You truthers are such a pathetic lot, that while many will find you to be comic relief, I wouldn’t piss on you if you were on fire.
I would get out the camcorder though, because youtubers seem to love that stuff.
Start your own online idiot box, you slack-jawed cro-mag.
April 9th, 2007 at 4:51 pm
Well put, Pres.
People are a crazy lot. We can stare at any fact so long and hard that we can convince ourselves that it isn’t so.
April 9th, 2007 at 8:46 pm
Dear
SchizoSteve,I put in the good word for you with brittany. You will find that she’s very easy to get along with *wink* *wink*.
She like Sufjan Stevens, the Decembrists, and in-depth exposes on the health scores of Taco Wagons. She pays like minded leftists the hefty sum of $100 to take her place on an ABC corporate sponsored website on the weekends.
I advise you to submit your application to her at brittneyg@(NoCommonSense)gmail.com.
Since I have already insulted you, you will find a willing ally in the corporate media to finally spread The Truth ™ about what happened on September 11th. Good Luck. And Gaia Speed.
April 11th, 2007 at 5:26 pm
How do you know I’m not CIA – and I live in the crawl space of my mothers trailer (couldn’t afford a basement).
Now, since you “nontruthers?” won’t take a crack at any of my questions, I’ll let you site your own sources.
Besides our philanthropic infallible government and Popular Mechanics, what other major institution or study can you site claiming the bullshit that happened on 9/11 went down the way the 911 Commission said it did?
Don’t say PBS’s Nova, because their pancake theory does hold up when questioned about the steel core of WTC 1&2. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911&hl=en
If you fucksticks don’t vote my points are mute and I’ll bow out. I just hope you don’t vote Rudy because he really “handled things” in NY after 911. If you’re not old enough to vote, don’t worry about it. Rome is burning and Nero is fiddling. You all appear to like the music.
April 11th, 2007 at 7:37 pm
Buh-bye.
April 11th, 2007 at 8:27 pm
Darn…just when Steve’s argument was finally beginning to convince me.