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Death of A House Negro

June 3rd, 2007 at 11:23 am by Smantix

First Hogzilla II, now this?

Not to convert this place into the Dead Meat Buffet but an enormous amount of meat died this weekend and we’re all the better for it. It goes without saying that the term “house negro” gets bandied about with great frequency against anyone of seemingly African descent when they are on the Right. Be you Clarence Thomas, Condoleeza Rice, Michael Steele, or J.C. Watts, you can expect a Harry Belafonte, a Danny Glover, or yes – even a Steve Gilliard (or even Randall Kennedy if you FireDogLakers are feeling froggy – 2.24.08) to call you out for being the race traitor that you are. The sell-out, Oreo cookies who do Whitey’s bidding and put a black face on racist policies that would otherwise be rightly called out for what they are. Uncle Thomas and Aunt Thomasinas alike.

But really, who is doing whose bidding in those situations? Can Howard Dean call Condoleeza his “do right answer mammy who be smart”? Can James Carville call out Clarence for collard greens?

Which brings us to today’s marquee morbidity. The tragic, untimely death of Donk House Negro and all around bigot Steve Gilliard. Who knew that boiling bacon grease in a spoon and mainlining it into the neck vein was bad for your health?

Most people will remember him as the happy-go-lucky poster of this photo of Michael Steele:

Gilliards Legacy

How to win a seat at the Democrat’s table.

The rest won’t remember him at all. The way it should be.

Naturally, The Left is deeply saddened that they need to find someone else who is not afraid to breakout the MS Paint and draw big lips and watermelons on black Republicans because they believe in individual responsibility or *gasp* lowering taxes.

It won’t be hard to find a replacement for Gilliard. Just scrape the bottom of the barrel like you usually do.

Douchetool Digby: “I wish I’d written that.”

Sobby newscoma: “He will be missed as a big voice in the liberal blogosphere”.

Looks like someone else beat me to the fat jokes.

And anyone who feels like complaining. Kindly STFU. Jane Hamsher has already written my defense for me.

Just blame my “take-no-prisoners attitude”!

UPDATE (Cranky):
Jules Crittenden has the eulogies roundup. They’re touching in a touch-your-tonsils-with-your-index-finger sort of way.

And other touching obit from the NYT.

UPDATE 2: It’s like the crash of metal. Rubbernecking voyeurs.


79 Responses to “Death of A House Negro”

  1. Jon Swift Says:

    I imagine you have have a mother who loves you, too, even as she hangs her head today in shame.

  2. Yiddish Steel Says:

    Brilliant obit there, Cranky. One for the 6MB HOF. I have not forgotten who was driving the Plantation Bus when the Michael Steele Jolson act was debuted. To Mr. Ralph Cramden Washington (AKA Steve Gilliard), may your 72 Hostess Ding Dongs await you up there in the Big Manse In The Sky (if that’s where your faithless-based ass is now).

  3. Megan Says:

    Steve Gilliard. Who dat?:shock:

  4. Cranky Says:

    Yid, this is Smantix’s baby. Credit where credit is due and all that.

  5. Smantix Says:

    Am I taking the wrong lesson from Gilliard’s death, Jon?

    Is there some greater message I am supposed to be receiving from the left side of the blogosphere greater than “be as mean and vicious as you can” so that you will be canonized in some leftist pantheon?

    The Left’s hagiographs to Gilliard are surely reminiscent of the historical revisionism given to Jerry Falwell.

    Maybe by seeing the ugliness of my post, you will think twice about the type of atmosphere you are now praising Gilliard for promoting.

  6. Nigel Says:

    “Dead Meat Buffet”

    Heh.

    Smantix…maybe Jon is hard of reading. Did you not call Gilliard’s death “tragic, untimely”?

    I think you handled this with all of the sensitivity Gilliard deserved…

  7. AJB Says:

    Jerry Falwell: A homophobic, segregationist, anti-Semitic, theocratic authoritarian who blamed liberals for 9/11.

    Steve Gilliard: Made a mean MSPaint about a Republican once.

  8. bbbustard Says:

    There is simply no excuse for your post. It does do the service of reminding us that all you have is hate.

  9. Tiny Tyrant Says:

    Ah ha, yes. I particularly enjoy the “left/right” angle. Very neat.

    Up until this point I’ve had difficulty determining which corpse I should be pissing on.. the flag wrap makes it a double whammy.. max points!

  10. Josh Sioux Says:

    I thought about you today, Smantix, as I was wiping my ass. Even for a rightwinger, you’re alarmingly stupid.

  11. Raindog Says:

    You are a piece of shit, and I hope you die of eye cancer. Soon.

  12. Smantix Says:

    Beautiful sentiments. Don’t hold back now. You are the exact type of Steve Gilliard readers I’ve been expecting.

  13. Raindog Says:

    Please enjoy. You’ve earned it.

  14. Svlad Jelly Says:

    It’s important to consider the context of the minstrel/sambo incident. Here’s Gilliard:

    “…depicting Michael Steele as a minstrel was neither accidental nor random. The specific reason is this: a couple of weeks ago, as I posted, Bob Erhlich was attending an event at an all-white country club. Steele was asked what he thought of that, being black and all. He said “it was no big deal”.

    “What?

    “First of all, in a state as black as Maryland, Erhlich’s actions were amazing in an of themselves. But Steele’s attempt to brush it away was astounding. I mean, what kind of self-respecting black man would do that? I mean, that’s just craven.

    Hence the minstrel paint.”

    Yeah. That’s “individual responsibility” and — gasp, sputter — “lowering taxes.” Douche.

  15. dgbellak Says:

    Can Howard Dean call Condoleeza his “do right answer mammy who be smart”?

    No, but he could probably get away with calling Bush a redneck, which would be a far more apt analogy. Idiot.

  16. Purple Avenger Says:

    Will there be a viewing? So we can be sure…

  17. nota bene Says:

    Chickenhawk.

    That was a ballsy thing to post in 2003. What’s funny is that a growing majority of the country agrees with that characterization. But Steve was brave enough to speak out at a time when that was heavily frowned upon (to say the least).

    He watched the towers fall, and he didn’t turn into a bedwetting Bush sycophant. You should read some of what he had to say about Giuliani and Kerik.

    He was the best writer in the blogosphere on war and military matters, hands down. He wrote with sympathy and pathos for the actual men in the field foremost in mind, something you can’t say for the Risk-players on the right. And if you find that a hard pill to swallow, maybe try reading through some of the comment threads where some troll would slander American soldiers and he’d get flamed by SG and the readers. I remember a few of these guys got banned.

    You can cry and complain about the Sambo thing all you want, but the fact is Ehrlich spoke at a racially exclusive country club and Steele kept as meek as a mouse. QED.

    Who’s the house negro after all?

    Gilliard had more intelligence, more insight, more history, more righteousness, more clarity, more balls, and more humor than your entire fucking blogroll put together.

    Fuck you. Congratulations, you’ve got your traffic to take a pathetic little spike, and you’re going to (rightfully) fade back into deserved obscurity, since you know nothing and will learn nothing.

  18. Josh Sioux Says:

    Gilliard had more intelligence, more insight, more history, more righteousness, more clarity, more balls, and more humor than your entire fucking blogroll put together.

    Amen. And he wasn’t a sniveling little asswipe, either.

  19. nolocontendere Says:

    bacon grease, hah hah
    mainlining, hah hah, please stop it with your third grade humor, you’re killing me here.

  20. Nigel Says:

    Nice little shitstorm you cooked up, Smantix.

    It’s so funny how outraged these whiny libs get when the tables are turned. If I wanted to waste the rest of my evening I could list a hundred vile posts from leftard websites written about Tony Snow, Dick Cheney, Jerry Falwell, Michelle Malkin, etc.

    Perhaps you could have waited a day or two, Smantix…you know, like the always sensitive liberal community did when Falwell died.

  21. jhs Says:

    Wow, this post is just…all class.

  22. Cranky Says:

    Just remember,
    racism = bad
    liberal racism = good
    Thanks for stopping by.

  23. Smantix Says:

    Gilliard had more intelligence, more insight, more history, more righteousness, more clarity, more balls, and more humor than your entire fucking blogroll put together.

    And a lot of good that’s doing him now, isn’t it? If the measure of a man’s worth is evidenced by the people who mourn him he was sorrier than I described.

    Furthermore, as if I needed to point this out, do you see a bunch of right-leaning sites tracking back and high-fiving this post?

    That’s right. Because the Christianists and godbotherers and the rest of those kinds of people that you all like to decry aren’t exactly the type who would celebrate this.

    Don’t get me wrong, fellas. It is theoretically possible that I could care less about traffic.

    I just want you to get a good healthy dose of your own medicine.

    Now get back down to the Democratic Underground and the Protocols of the Daily Kos and police your own when you see them being as tasteless and disrespectful as I was.

  24. Preston Taylor Holmes Says:

    I’m just impressed that you were able to generate more heat than the Snowman did during a brawl with Jerry Lawler in the Memphis Mid-South Coliseum in 1988. And that was some serious heat back then.

  25. Andrew Kaduk Says:

    Smantix for mayor.

  26. kranko Says:

    Childish and nauseating. Shame on you.

  27. Auntie Occident Says:

    “Now get back down to the Democratic Underground and the Protocols of the Daily Kos and police your own when you see them being as tasteless and disrespectful as I was.”

    Oh, see. Smantcs (who?) has a -point-. He’s teaching people a -lesson-. He’s -not- just a repellent douchebag with the ethics of a flatworm, with a brain to match. I wouldn’t piss down your throat if your lungs were on fire, and now I consign you back to your well-deserved obscurity, you fucking scumbag.

  28. Smantix Says:

    As an fyi, comments will likely be in moderation until the morning.

    That doesn’t mean that your f-bombs, and I hate yous, I hope you die and get cancer, and your “you’re so obscure – I hate you – stay obscure”, and you’re childish, blah, blah, anal cysts, blah won’t get approved.

    They’ll just be resting. Peacefully. Unlike you, who won’t get a moment’s rest until I’m awestruck and reeling from your brutally keen observations.

  29. Smantix Says:

    For the record, the owner of the picture I was using asked that I take it down under the rules of the Creative Commons license. I did not take it from the Flickr page but rather one of the several other sites that already reposted it. Regardless, I will accommodate the request.

    They did say something interesting though:

    “I’m dismayed to see someone using my
    work without permission to make crude fat jokes about someone I care
    about.”

    I would say he/she are right. Now imagine if I’d touched up the picture in blackface the same way Gilliard did to Michael Steele and then re-posted it. To see someone using someone else’s picture to make a crude racist joke about someone that somebody else probably cares about.

    Gauging from the comments, blackface is the height of social satire.

    Nuance.

  30. JR Says:

    You have to admit that Smantix’s Swiftian satire is near-perfect in its parallels. Quibblers might point out that Michael Steele was not a) dead, b) a private citizen not running for political office, c) mocked merely for being fat, sick or dead or d) likely to care. They might also point that Gilliard’s image was made to make a political point, however crude or unwelcome, while Smantix’s was made to offend and inflame a bunch of unhappy people, inciting them to make angry comments which he could then post and mock. But other than that–perfect! Sir, I saluted your nuanced satire, which is flying over the heads of your unworthy audience.

  31. nota bene Says:

    And a lot of good that’s doing him now, isn’t it? blah blah blah

    Res ipsa loquitur.

    To see someone using someone else’s picture to make a crude racist joke about someone that somebody else probably cares about.

    I don’t think you get that Steve made a point about Steele….it was not a nice thing to say, but Steve wasn’t trying to
    win any friends, he was trying to illustrate that Steele is, in fact, a house negro.

    It wasn’t a joke. It was a point. To say that it struck a nerve is an understatement. He made an impact on a Senate race with a simple MS Paint job that probably took him less than five minutes. Perhaps we should ponder why such a simple rhetorical point caused such an uproar. (Hint: this isn’t about Steve.)

    Let me reiterate this, since you evidently missed it the first time: Ehrlich had a fundraiser at a whites-only country club. It was 2005 and he thought he could get away with that without being called on it. Steele attacked people who questioned this and changed the subject whenever possible. He never even made an attempt to defend himself or Ehrlich, really. The point had been made, and it was so obvious all the apparatchiks could do was attack Steve, desperately calling him something he had very elegantly hung around their necks.

    Steve’s larger point was that Republican voters forget to vote for black Republicans on election day….and you know what? He was right.

    And that’s why you’re having a conniption. The Republican party will be lily white for the forseeable future until you finally, for once and for all, reject the Southern Strategy and end the racist crap (like beginning your presidential campaign in Philadelphia MS).

    Dog whistle politics is evidently no help to black Republican candidates for Senate in the 21st century. If Alan Keyes runs against Sen. Cardin in ’12, maybe we can get more confirmation of my thesis here….

  32. Cranky Says:

    he was trying to illustrate that Steele is, in fact, a house negro

    And there you said it all. I used to sincerely believe that liberalism was a committment to equality. As I lived in it for years in San Francisco, it proved to be as hollow and phony as the TV evangelists you love to bash. The only difference, is that your hatreds are more “correct”.

    What I love about conservatism is that it is truly color-blind and egalitarian. Modern liberalism has every thought shot through a prism of race so that it becomes a form of racism. So much so that if a member of a minority holds to a conservative viewpoint, that person is actually ostracized from their “race”.

  33. Nigel Says:

    #19 “please stop it with your third grade humor”

    You’re kidding right? All of us who are friends of 6MB know that the humor here is at LEAST of 5th grade quality.

    If you are just too highbrow for that, then perhaps you can go to sites that feature “sophisticated” humor…like putting people in blackface and wishing death on Tony Snow.

  34. Greg Costello Says:

    Waaaahhhh! Michael Steele is allowed to make fun at black people, but I’m not allowed to indulge my racist fantasies! Waaaahhhh! It’s so hard to be white! We’re losing everything, man!

  35. Greg Costello Says:

    Oops, I meant “Steve Gilliard is allowed…” and “make fun OF…”

    Sarcasm still applies.

  36. # 9 Says:

    Eye cancer. Nice. Your mom must be very proud.

  37. Svlad Jelly Says:

    Now imagine if I’d touched up the picture in blackface the same way Gilliard did to Michael Steele and then re-posted it.

    Only first, imagine that a politician that Gilliard supported, who in fact chose Steve as a running mate, had attended a fund raiser at a country club that Steve himself couldn’t join, and when asked about it Steve simply said “it’s no big deal.”

    Not a one of you has even acknowledged this fact, even though it’s been brought up a couple of times now. You wingnuts don’t seem to be able to grasp these simple factual details at all, actually.

    To see someone using someone else’s picture to make a crude racist joke about someone that somebody else probably cares about.

    As Nota Bene pointed out, but is worth stating again, Gilliard wasn’t joking, he was making a sober observation regarding a shameful incident. One that you people have thus far chosen to completely ignore (and lie about: “individual responsibility and lowering taxes.”)

  38. Yiddish Steel Says:

    I love how libtard trolls like “notaneme”, “JR”, “Auntie O”, “Josh Sioux”, “Svlad”, & “AJB” have the smug, self-righteousness to defend their hero, Steve Gilliard for his “excusable racism”. These are the same people that were first in line to get an unauthorized copy of Michael Steel’s Equifax and Transunion report a year ago. Get back on the plantation and keep picking that pandering cotton, fools!

  39. Beth Says:

    These morons are still excusing that blackface shit?
    Oh wait, I forgot…the value of “art” increases after the “artist” passes away, doesn’t it? How Christ-like (language notwithstanding) of these pure liberal souls, to forgive everything now that Gilliard has died.
    I do wish for him to rest in peace; I’m sorry he died so young. But these morons spewing in comments here…nah. Their irrational rage and self-inflicted misery is entertaining. :mrgreen:
    Thanks for putting the silver lining on Gilliard’s death, trolls!

  40. Nashville is Talking » Teaching Libs a Lesson Says:

    [...] Smantix remembers blogger Steve Gilliard: It goes without saying that the term “house negro” gets bandied about with great frequency against anyone of seemingly African descent when they are on the Right. Be you Clarence Thomas, Condoleeza Rice, Michael Steele, or J.C. Watts, you can expect a Harry Belafonte, a Danny Glover, or yes – even a Steve Gilliard to call you out for being the race traitor that you are. The sell-out, Oreo cookies who do Whitey’s bidding and put a black face on racist policies that would otherwise be rightly called out for what they are. Uncle Thomas and Aunt Thomasinas alike. [...]

  41. Kevin Hayden Says:

    Upon the occasion of a man’s death, a man whose words caused no one’s death nor physical injury, a man convicted of no crime, a man who’s grasp of military history granted him success in describing current military events and their likely outcomes, a man whose chief life offenses seemed to be the capacity to be rude and insulting to people he considered his enemies, it certainly seems to be badly timed to assault his character while the hour of mourning is fresh.

    I hope you are treated better on your passing, for the sake of your survivors. They do not earn pain for your lack of class and incivility. That should be your reward, while you live. Perhaps then, you can learn the meaning of, the importance of, and the capacity to feel ashamed.

  42. dsmith Says:

    “a man whose chief life offenses seemed to be the capacity to be rude and insulting to people he considered his enemies…”

    Irony? :roll:

  43. Svlad Jelly Says:

    Hey, I’m not defending or excusing shit here, dingleberries. I didn’t read Gilliard. His site is not in my bookmarks. I don’t give two tugs of a dead dog’s cock about the guy. I simply presented the facts of the situation that smantix conveniently forgot to mention. It’s not my fault those facts make Steele and the rest of you look like giant assholes.

    Fuck yes I feel self-righteous though. I actually took the time to look up the old Steele/Gilliard thing. And I considered the incident calmly and rationally before I came here and gave you morons a fucking smackdown. Twice. Unlike you wingnuts, who simply tow the party line (“Don’t question! Don’t think for yourself! Believe what we tell you!”)

    And YS, you should fucking think hard about who you accuse of “excusable racism,” considering Michael Steele’s nonchalance at Ehrlich fundraising at a whites-only club (which none of you has yet acknowledged.) How many times do we have to point this out?

  44. Preston Taylor Holmes Says:

    “How many times do we have to point this out?”

    You keep pointing it out, Svlad and we’ll keep ignoring it, because it obviously pushes your buttons.

    Holy shit, you people are easy.

  45. Joules Says:

    I’ve never heard of this guy so the heat coming off this thread is wasted on me; however, I did eat a fat-loaded meal of fish and chips at Oceanside Harbor today and prayed for the troops as I passed Camp Pendleton on my way down the coast from Orange County to San Diego.

  46. Smantix Says:

    Is this what you kids do when I’m at work all day?

    Kevin Hayden tries to make a good point. So I’ll give him credit for trying. He’s really raised the bar in relation to the other SG readers who’ve made their way here.

    There is a certain tautology to living by the insult and dying by the insult.

    As I said, this was an intentionally inflammatory post for people who liked being inflamed. I’d like to think Kevin Hayden is that way on his own without the benefit of hindsight as that would truly make him an exception to the rule.

    Given some of these commenters “nuance” to whatever club that Michael Steele spoke, we can apply that same logic to any Democratic Presidential Candidate speaking at a historically black college. After all, segregated schools must be equally as bad as a golf club.

  47. Gene Simmons Says:

    Who’s “Michael Steele”? Did he run for something once?

  48. Svlad Jelly Says:

    You are severely fucked in the head if you actually think those two situations are even remotely comparable. That’s just six levels of twisted. You are one sick bastard.

    So I am outta here. The moment some neo-confederate psycho tries to compare historically black colleges — “historically” as in “left over from forced segregation and not actually entirely black at all, only predominantly black” — to an actual whites-only country club, well, I just have to call it quits.

    Congratulations, you’ve discovered how to get rid of me. My kryptonite. I would have stuck around for weeks, because up until now I assumed you were just being an asshole and it was fun to be an asshole right back, but now I see that you really are some crazed CofCC member or some such. Or maybe you’re just really, really dumb. Either way, I’ve had my fun. Adios.

  49. Jeff Fecke Says:

    we can apply that same logic to any Democratic Presidential Candidate speaking at a historically black college. After all, segregated schools must be equally as bad as a golf club.

    What you just said is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever heard. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it.

  50. Bd Says:

    we can apply that same logic to any Democratic Presidential Candidate speaking at a historically black college. After all, segregated schools must be equally as bad as a golf club.

    Except historically black colleges allow all races. So they aren’t segregated, and you’ve just added another ring to this post’s circus of dumb.

  51. Tubgirl Says:

    “You keep pointing it out, Svlad and we’ll keep ignoring it, because it obviously pushes your buttons.

    Holy shit, you people are easy.”

    Er…looks like Steve had the same effect on you guys. May he rest in peace.

  52. M. Bouffant Says:

    If you had any connection to fact or history you might be able to understand the difference between an historically black school & a segregated golf club.

  53. Smantix Says:

    While HBCU’s don’t codify that particular type of racism, it’s more of an institutional wink and a nod that you can get a segregated education.

    But maybe I’m wrong on this one. And it’s as simple to correct as taking a quick poll as to the current racial demographics of HBCUs.

  54. Preston Taylor Holmes Says:

    #48

    “Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it.”

    That was good. I just spit out some grapefruit.

  55. St. Legalize Says:

    Good to know that the wingnut welfare machine is still supporting petulant undergrad Republican sites such as this one. Go on; admit it – you are one of the frat “boys” from the Borat movie, blaming minorities and women for all of your woes – all those mean people who won’t just stay in their place and bow down to your trust-fund-legacy sense of unearned entitlement.

  56. Yiddish Steel Says:

    Any of you race-hustling, select outrage at-the-drop-of-a-hat libtards like our new friend Svlad remember this little gem from your plantation?

    During a meeting Friday with the Democratic black caucus, Dean (your boy, Howie – ed.) praised black Democrats for their work for the party, then questioned Republicans’ ability to rally support from minorities.

    “You think the Republican National Committee could get this many people of color in a single room?,” Dean asked to laughter. “Only if they had the hotel staff in here.”

    And how many of these people of color were ever in a high-level cabinet position in the Clinton WHite House, let alone, in your esteemed DNC?!

  57. Demosthenes Says:

    Wow. Just Wow. Even though all thinking folk know of the dark hate and bigotry that lurks in the souls of all modern Republicans, it’s still stunning to see it so unabashedly on full display.

  58. Dan Someone Says:

    #52
    “While HBCU’s don’t codify that particular type of racism, it’s more of an institutional wink and a nod that you can get a segregated education.

    But maybe I’m wrong on this one. And it’s as simple to correct as taking a quick poll as to the current racial demographics of HBCUs.”

    This is funny. Smantix apparently thinks someone woke up one day and said, “Hey, let’s start a college and exclude Whitey.” Like blacks weren’t denied entry into other colleges and universities for decades, leaving them no other choice.

    Seriously, how short a memory does one have to have, how ignorant of history does one have to be, to think that way?

    By the way, Smantix, your poll idea is only partially useful. You’d also need to figure out how many non-blacks were in the applicant pools for those colleges, and then how many of those non-black applicants were rejected, and then you’d have to come up with some way of determining if those rejected non-blacks were rejected because of their race. THEN you could say you knew something about whether those institutions are racist or not.

    Unlike a whites-only golf club, where you only have to look at the written club policy.

  59. Swamp Rabbit Says:

    Ha,,, this is great Smantix, I do so look fwd to the encore.

  60. calling all toasters Says:

    It is becoming clearer and clearer that blacks and liberals are racist,* and that white conservatives aren’t.** The fact that Maryland blacks wrote Gilliard in overwhelming support of his photoshopping of Steele only exposes them in their racism and ignorance (why are they allowed to vote again?). Therefore, it is sweet and fitting to take a dump on the grave on a black liberal in the name of fighting racism. This cause of conservatives fighting racism is too important to go wobbly because of meaningless impediments like simple human decency. Kudos.

    * Thurgood Marshall, Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King, James E. Chaney, Andrew Goodman, Michael Schwerner, Al Sharpton, W.E.B. DuBois, William Lloyd Garrison, Abraham Lincoln, Lyndon Johnson, John Lewis, Medgar Evers, Bobby Kennedy, Roy Abernathy, and Philip Randolph notwithstanding, as these are isolated and insignificant cases.

    ** “Bull” Connor, Strom Thurmond, Lester Maddox, Nathan Bedford Forrest, George Wallace, George Allen, Roger Taney, Orval Faubus, William J. Simmons, and Sonny Perdue notwithstanding, as these are isolated and insignificant cases.

  61. Yiddish Steel Says:

    Alright. Let’s just get to the point here. Let’s get a show of hands here by all the linking trolls that think Michael Steele is an “Uncle Tom” or “House Negro” like their literary hero, Steve Gilliard believed.

  62. Nigel Says:

    #59…

    You forgot Robert Byrd, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Cynthia McKinney, Howard Dean, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton. Race-baiting LIBERALS.

    Here is the difference. You will make an excuse in your mind for all of the race-baiters I listed above.

    For the “racist conservatives” you listed (almost all of whom are long-deceased and two of whom were in fact, Democrats), I’ll make no excuses. Their racial attitudes were wrong and divisive.

  63. Nigel Says:

    Ooops, #59, if you are going to play that card, let me add this one:

    Abraham Lincoln. REPUBLICAN. As long as we are using the way-back machine to go back into history…

  64. Bd Says:

    While HBCU’s don’t codify that particular type of racism, it’s more of an institutional wink and a nod that you can get a segregated education.

    But maybe I’m wrong on this one. And it’s as simple to correct as taking a quick poll as to the current racial demographics of HBCUs.

    Or you could just use Google before you make yourself look an even bigger fool.

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/education/404971,college052907.article

  65. calling all toasters Says:

    Gawrsh, Nigel, I can’t hardly have realized that Lincoln was a Republican! So that’s what those “Party of Lincoln” bumper stickers mean. Thank you! …but for those of us who remember a Time Before Limbaugh, there were Republicans who were liberal. And those of us familiar with American history know that Lincoln was one of those liberals (and that the 19th C. GOP was the more liberal party).

    As for current history, you and your talk radio-listening friends may convince yourselves that an unwise remark or two (or something willfully misinterpreted into an unwise remark) on the part of liberals absolves you for your racism. Those who pay attention to reality understand that things like stereotyping “welfare queens,” supporting apartheid, and letting New Orleans die show what’s really going on. As will history.

  66. Nigel Says:

    Toast (#64)…

    My point was that it’s useless to go back in history and point out how racist conservatives are. Both parties have changed…to name DEMOCRAT George Wallace as an example of a conservative “racist” is not intellectually honest.

    I named SEVEN CURRENT prominent liberal democrats who have been guilty of race-baiting, making racially insensitive remarks, or hell…being a Kleagle in the KKK. Do you hold their feet to the fire as well? Or do you excuse their racism because they are liberals?

    Personally, everyone needs to relax a little. I had NO problem with what Steve Gilliard did by black-facing Michael Steele (and I had no problem with conservatives noting that if a conservative had done something similar, he/she would have been excoriated by the same liberals who laughed at Gilliard’s post).

    He was trying to make a political point (though one I certainly didn’t agree with).

    But he played the race card. And once you do, you now open yourself up to scrutiny…and the SAME treatment that Smantix gave him.

    I believe Gilliard might have actually laughed at what Smantix did…then flipped him the bird.

  67. Yiddish Steel Says:

    Yeah, “Coaster” & “Vd”! Y’all do-goodin’ libruls like to play that there Race Card http://sixmeatbuffet.com/images/racecard.jpg to the point where it really has no substance or merit to it. You like to photoshop reality to fit your perverted version of what it truly is.

  68. Preston Taylor Holmes Says:

    Wait a second… Did Gene Simmons just come by here?

  69. Ryan Says:

    There’s a huge difference between a “take no prisoners” attitude and being a giant ass. I hope you learn the difference one day.

  70. Nigel Says:

    Actually Preston, I think that was Alice Cooper’s sock-puppetry…he likes to do that you know.

  71. Smantix Says:

    Did bd actually read that Chicago Sun-Times link on rising enrollment at Black Colleges?

    a) My stupidity will have to digress for not having read an article that has been out for less than a week.

    b) Of course, it can rise. It has no where to go but up. More than 9:1 after lawsuits = Diversity?

    Lawsuits have forced many of the schools — about half of them are public — to diversify their student bodies, Baskerville said. In the 2005-06 school year, nearly 10 percent of their students were white, according to her association’s data.

    So ~$500 Million a year was being spent of taxpayer money to fund race-based discrimination prior to people filing lawsuits. I realize that HBCUs have a cottage industry by keeping Plessy v. Ferguson alive and well but don’t ask for my taxes to do it.

    As opposed to, say, a private golf club. Which now, by the way, has black members in no small part to Steele.

  72. Bd Says:

    a) My stupidity will have to digress for not having read an article that has been out for less than a week.

    Uh, you made that comment yesterday. If you weren’t an idiot, you would have at least googled before you asserted something you had no clue about.

    I realize that HBCUs have a cottage industry by keeping Plessy v. Ferguson alive and well but don’t ask for my taxes to do it.

    Yes, they’re keeping Plessy v. Ferguson alive by admitting students of all races.

    I’ll put it really simply so even you and Yiddish Steel can understand. You said that HBCUs are segregated. For something to be segregated, it must exclude people because they belong to particular race. HBCUs don’t exclude any students because they belong to a particular race. Therefore they aren’t segregated.

    Read it over to yourself until you understand. Make sure to move your lips.

  73. Smantix Says:

    If you had read the article you posted you would see that they are only integrating because they have been forced by lawsuits to do so.

    Ehrlich spoke at a club that, while not having any black members at the time did not have a rule in place denying black members entry. A private club. Versus public schools. Private club. Public schools. See the difference?

    Winning lawsuits against HBCUs prove that they were discriminating against people enrolling. I did google it before I said it. That I didn’t find that CST article that was just released is regrettable. It does not negate what I have known since I was taking African-American History classes by a doctor who now sits on the board of directors at the Race Relations Institute at Fisk University. A historically black college.

    But this is all getting far removed from Gilliard’s assclownery that you all will not learn to stop defending.

  74. Joules Says:

    Demosthenes, better look up! There’s a sword hangin’ over yer bed. D’OH, that was Damocles! Us uneducated, petulant, entitled Republikins cain’t keep our Greek stories strait. Didja ever hear the one that went “liberals quit thinkin’ at the furst hint of a emotion?”

  75. Twisted_Colour Says:

    “Is there some greater message I am supposed to be receiving from the left side of the blogosphere greater than “be as mean and vicious as you can” so that you will be canonized in some leftist pantheon?”

    Cool!!

    By the way, I just saw your Mum. She said was greasin’ up notHogzilla’s thick tusk and sending it your way. Something about the world needing a new Charles Nelson Reilly and after a bit of work you might fit the bill.

    Bless her heart.

  76. Smantix Says:

    Hogzilla’s dead. It’s not nice to speak ill of the dead.

  77. Jehtro Bodine Says:

    Great post! Hope your kids get cancer! :smile:

  78. Preston Taylor Holmes Says:

    Now there’s that classic liberal compassion I know and love. I’d love to stick around for more of this progressive open-mindedness, but the season finale of The Shield is coming on.

  79. Smantix Says:

    Another fine entry from our erudite friends at Sadly No, I’m sure. My point has been made. I thoroughly disrespected someone who made a name for themselves doing the same thing.

    That the bigoted Left who celebrates their own Uncle Tom, who celebrate a mediocre at best and the lackluster legacy of Steve Gilliard will fade in time. But the comments from these Guardians of Good Taste will be here for years to come.

    Thanks for confirming everything I knew you were before I wrote it.

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