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		<title>By: richard mcenroe</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard mcenroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 01:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;    You’re hurting your fellow liberal bloggers.

    I can’t make that any more clear. Your behavior is hurting us. Just fucking stop it.&quot;

Do it again!  Do it again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;    You’re hurting your fellow liberal bloggers.</p>
<p>    I can’t make that any more clear. Your behavior is hurting us. Just fucking stop it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do it again!  Do it again!</p>
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		<title>By: Say what?</title>
		<link>http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2007/06/06/operation-collateral-damage/comment-page-1/#comment-99133</link>
		<dc:creator>Say what?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 00:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean: &quot;I know England has universal college (and by that I simply mean that public universities are free to attend)&quot;

You misspelled &quot;by that I simply mean that I have my head several feet up my ass&quot;.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4354495.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hope this helps!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean: &#8220;I know England has universal college (and by that I simply mean that public universities are free to attend)&#8221;</p>
<p>You misspelled &#8220;by that I simply mean that I have my head several feet up my ass&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4354495.stm" rel="nofollow">Hope this helps!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Preston Taylor Holmes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Preston Taylor Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 18:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.

Pathetic doesn&#039;t begin to describe it.  No wonder they&#039;re so quick to surrender to every internal and external enemy we come up against.  The gaggle of sycophants in the comments reacting in awestruck worship is even worse.

At least she came back to him, though.  Surely &lt;i&gt;he won&#039;t hit her again&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.</p>
<p>Pathetic doesn&#8217;t begin to describe it.  No wonder they&#8217;re so quick to surrender to every internal and external enemy we come up against.  The gaggle of sycophants in the comments reacting in awestruck worship is even worse.</p>
<p>At least she came back to him, though.  Surely <i>he won&#8217;t hit her again</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Smantix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smantix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 14:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PTH - if you get back on this weekend then go read Aunt B&#039;s apology to Jesus General which is nothing short of one of the most gutless displays of groveling I have ever seen.

Seriously.  We need to get her a toll-free number to a battered women&#039;s shelter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PTH &#8211; if you get back on this weekend then go read Aunt B&#8217;s apology to Jesus General which is nothing short of one of the most gutless displays of groveling I have ever seen.</p>
<p>Seriously.  We need to get her a toll-free number to a battered women&#8217;s shelter.</p>
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		<title>By: Preston Taylor Holmes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Preston Taylor Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 04:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just drove for 9 hours through the dark underbelly of Alabama and Lynnster makes perfect sense to me.  I recommend that each of you take a 9 hour drive, re-read the comment and get back with me.  I think you&#039;ll see things the same way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just drove for 9 hours through the dark underbelly of Alabama and Lynnster makes perfect sense to me.  I recommend that each of you take a 9 hour drive, re-read the comment and get back with me.  I think you&#8217;ll see things the same way.</p>
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		<title>By: John from WuzzaDem</title>
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		<dc:creator>John from WuzzaDem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 00:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;John - they don’t believe that.&lt;/i&gt;

If that&#039;s so, my bad. Although, in my defense I have to say that my brain went numb somewhere around the 42nd paragraph of that comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>John &#8211; they don’t believe that.</i></p>
<p>If that&#8217;s so, my bad. Although, in my defense I have to say that my brain went numb somewhere around the 42nd paragraph of that comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynnster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynnster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 00:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Smantix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smantix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 00:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll give you credit for at least having the guts to come over here and say what you think.    

Which is more than I can say for, well, I guess that&#039;s everybody else isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll give you credit for at least having the guts to come over here and say what you think.    </p>
<p>Which is more than I can say for, well, I guess that&#8217;s everybody else isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Lynnster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynnster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 23:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donna:  Well, I understand all that and you and I are not too far off the same page here, I don&#039;t think.

The details are unnecessary, really, but I have been in (or aligned with those in) similar positions to the ones the folks here often find themselves in.  For vastly different reasons and nothing to do with political bent, but I know what it&#039;s like to deal with people either so full of hate or with their minds so very made up that they don&#039;t listen... both Internet and pre-Internet.  I understand that position.  That doesn&#039;t necessarily make me agree with (and sometimes even far from it) other people that wind up in that position, but that&#039;s a position I understand.

Smantix may very well have his mind made up about me and that&#039;s fine, I&#039;m not going to lose a lot of sleep over that if so.  But I&#039;m pretty certain I&#039;m probably a whole lot more open-minded and broad-minded than he obviously thought I was when he wrote all that yesterday.  There&#039;s a pretty big reason why I have friends of all different types and convictions and beliefs and persuasions, and why there aren&#039;t too many people I absolutely don&#039;t get along with.  That&#039;s not to say it&#039;s because I want to be &quot;everybody&#039;s friend&quot;, nor that I wanna be Smantix&#039;s friend - but I&#039;ll generally give people a lot more rope than most before I totally write them off as a waste of space.

But all that&#039;s not really part of the discussion at hand, so I&#039;ll stop there.  

The bottom line, really, somewhere bogged down in all this is that I suspect Smantix and I are more in agreement than we are not about what it was about all this shit that went down this week wasn&#039;t right.  He obviously disapproved of some of the things I brought up about him, his post, and SMB itself in trying to get those who led the campaign to listen, and I can understand why, in some instances anyway.  

But I kinda suspect our basic M.O. in dealing with that kind of irrationality and insanity and stupidity (and hatred and all else) is probably not quite as different as he thought, or may still think... other than the fact that he probably wouldn&#039;t spend as much time dealing with it as I did this week.  

And I&#039;m absolutely certain that whatever label(s) he had in his head about me when he pointed a finger at me up yonder in comments and said &quot;people like you&quot; - with the exception of maybe &quot;woman/female&quot; or even &quot;stupid blonde&quot;, yeah - was wrong, or at least probably way, way, way off base.

I pretty much call shit like I see it (whether Smantix believes that or not) and I&#039;ll usually say so, and sometimes I&#039;m right and sometimes I&#039;m wrong, but I know I&#039;m not wrong about the off base part stuff.  And it doesn&#039;t really matter to me how this plays out - people&#039;ll believe what they wanna believe anyway - but just like Brittney&#039;s &quot;not having made herself clear&quot; got those reactionaries up in arms, I think there&#039;s something to be said for the fact that people often misunderstand stuff or have misconceptions just because not everything&#039;s always made clear - but that doesn&#039;t necessarily mean any conclusions you jump to are gonna be right, and it&#039;s something to be considered anyway.

Whatever.  I&#039;m pretty sick of it all after this week and I&#039;m sure most of you are too, so I&#039;m happy to end this little bit of residual here.  Preferably without a mutual &quot;fuck off and die&quot;, but I guess that&#039;s up to Smantix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donna:  Well, I understand all that and you and I are not too far off the same page here, I don&#8217;t think.</p>
<p>The details are unnecessary, really, but I have been in (or aligned with those in) similar positions to the ones the folks here often find themselves in.  For vastly different reasons and nothing to do with political bent, but I know what it&#8217;s like to deal with people either so full of hate or with their minds so very made up that they don&#8217;t listen&#8230; both Internet and pre-Internet.  I understand that position.  That doesn&#8217;t necessarily make me agree with (and sometimes even far from it) other people that wind up in that position, but that&#8217;s a position I understand.</p>
<p>Smantix may very well have his mind made up about me and that&#8217;s fine, I&#8217;m not going to lose a lot of sleep over that if so.  But I&#8217;m pretty certain I&#8217;m probably a whole lot more open-minded and broad-minded than he obviously thought I was when he wrote all that yesterday.  There&#8217;s a pretty big reason why I have friends of all different types and convictions and beliefs and persuasions, and why there aren&#8217;t too many people I absolutely don&#8217;t get along with.  That&#8217;s not to say it&#8217;s because I want to be &#8220;everybody&#8217;s friend&#8221;, nor that I wanna be Smantix&#8217;s friend &#8211; but I&#8217;ll generally give people a lot more rope than most before I totally write them off as a waste of space.</p>
<p>But all that&#8217;s not really part of the discussion at hand, so I&#8217;ll stop there.  </p>
<p>The bottom line, really, somewhere bogged down in all this is that I suspect Smantix and I are more in agreement than we are not about what it was about all this shit that went down this week wasn&#8217;t right.  He obviously disapproved of some of the things I brought up about him, his post, and SMB itself in trying to get those who led the campaign to listen, and I can understand why, in some instances anyway.  </p>
<p>But I kinda suspect our basic M.O. in dealing with that kind of irrationality and insanity and stupidity (and hatred and all else) is probably not quite as different as he thought, or may still think&#8230; other than the fact that he probably wouldn&#8217;t spend as much time dealing with it as I did this week.  </p>
<p>And I&#8217;m absolutely certain that whatever label(s) he had in his head about me when he pointed a finger at me up yonder in comments and said &#8220;people like you&#8221; &#8211; with the exception of maybe &#8220;woman/female&#8221; or even &#8220;stupid blonde&#8221;, yeah &#8211; was wrong, or at least probably way, way, way off base.</p>
<p>I pretty much call shit like I see it (whether Smantix believes that or not) and I&#8217;ll usually say so, and sometimes I&#8217;m right and sometimes I&#8217;m wrong, but I know I&#8217;m not wrong about the off base part stuff.  And it doesn&#8217;t really matter to me how this plays out &#8211; people&#8217;ll believe what they wanna believe anyway &#8211; but just like Brittney&#8217;s &#8220;not having made herself clear&#8221; got those reactionaries up in arms, I think there&#8217;s something to be said for the fact that people often misunderstand stuff or have misconceptions just because not everything&#8217;s always made clear &#8211; but that doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean any conclusions you jump to are gonna be right, and it&#8217;s something to be considered anyway.</p>
<p>Whatever.  I&#8217;m pretty sick of it all after this week and I&#8217;m sure most of you are too, so I&#8217;m happy to end this little bit of residual here.  Preferably without a mutual &#8220;fuck off and die&#8221;, but I guess that&#8217;s up to Smantix.</p>
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		<title>By: Smantix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smantix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 23:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE:  Brevity, Soul, Wit, et al.

John - they don&#039;t believe that.  Early on with that site, one of the early controversies they stirred up was that a local elected politician started blogging.  You know, because we want politicians engaged with the public - or so we say.

He had a blogroll.  And one of those people on his blogroll wrote a controversial post and they (the NiTwits as I call them) started calling for him to resign from office for what someone on his blogroll said.

All this is for naught anyway.  My guess is that brittany will waltz back in the door sometime in the next few weeks, throw her keys, purse, and hummus on the desk like nothing ever happened and start banging away for ABC again after everything settles down.

Doing this for free every day is a noble sentiment.  But it don&#039;t pay the Volkswagen repair man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:  Brevity, Soul, Wit, et al.</p>
<p>John &#8211; they don&#8217;t believe that.  Early on with that site, one of the early controversies they stirred up was that a local elected politician started blogging.  You know, because we want politicians engaged with the public &#8211; or so we say.</p>
<p>He had a blogroll.  And one of those people on his blogroll wrote a controversial post and they (the NiTwits as I call them) started calling for him to resign from office for what someone on his blogroll said.</p>
<p>All this is for naught anyway.  My guess is that brittany will waltz back in the door sometime in the next few weeks, throw her keys, purse, and hummus on the desk like nothing ever happened and start banging away for ABC again after everything settles down.</p>
<p>Doing this for free every day is a noble sentiment.  But it don&#8217;t pay the Volkswagen repair man.</p>
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