And catblogger wins. (Homophonically speaking, there was little choice).  For the people who arrived at this surely most Solomon-like of conclusions, I think this is the most apt description:

You chose poorly.

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1. Whew…Bolts shut down Titans…

   Chargers beat the Titans 17-6. Now the boys at Six Meat Buffet owe me a tribute on their site to the Chargers for the next week. I’m waiting…(not to worry…they’re not the type to renege).
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1. Excellent use of Indiana Jones & the Last Crusade.

   comment by Ron — Saturday, January 5, 2008 @ 11:50 pm

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2. Brian,

   A little background here? Or would that be a little too confrontational?

   Feel free to send me an email if you don’t wish to air it here…

   comment by Nigel — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 12:03 am

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3. Nothing for me to air on this one. Oddly enough.

   Which leaves me to wildly speculate - a favorite hobby of mine. Right up there with run-on sentences.

   comment by Brian — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 12:31 am

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4. You chose poorly.

   To clarify, Brian, Kat resigned of her own choice…we (Ivy, me, or the other moderators over at MCB) did not choose JP over her by any means.

   Your assessment of the situation is inaccurate.

   comment by Ginger — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 1:20 am

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5. I know when I write things that I leave room in there for people to read whatever they may want to read into it.

   Whether it was her choice or your choice or their choice is immaterial. It was a poor choice whoever decided it.

   At the end of the day, she left and Catboy’s 18 hour “ban” was lifted. Then there’s this talk about legal threats. Is that related to #9’s post from this week?

   comment by Brian — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 1:37 am

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6. What talk of legal threats?

   comment by Ron — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 1:47 am

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7. In Ivy’s post she says “We will, as Ginger said, moderate things that can get me sued…”. I thought I’d heard that “as long as I don’t get sued” line before.

   Ginger took down a post #9 did about that nutball, onomatopoeiacally named “RoR!” In the comments where she was explaining why such attacks would not be tolerated, dumbass kept saying that #9 needed to look up the definition of defamation by characterizing that other Global Warming nutball’s Red Stater deathwish as defamation. And that he was making “libelous” claims.

   Just curious. Could be neither. Good luck winning defamation and libel against your anonymous internet pseudonyms though. Believe me, if I could sue people for defamation written against me there would be a bunch of broke blogging mofos in Nashville.

   comment by Brian — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 2:00 am

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8. I just got in (and, no, I wasn’t drinving while driking, orificer…I swears!) and just found out about this ‘unbanning’. Hmmmph. Funny, I don’t feel any different…

   I’m pretty sure I know why I was included in that second round of bans, and it wasn’t just for standing up for my principles, which I did (and always do). Principle being, in this case, you can’t just shut someone (JP) down just because he was…well, you know what he was/is as well as I do. As difficult as it was for me to defend JP, I put on a few heavily-layered overcoats and did just that, because to sit back and crow like a bantam rooster when a sworn enemy is unjustly pegged just isn’t my style.

   My inclusion in that second round of K. Coble’s bans was done so at her whim, based on her own capriciousness and her current state of vindictiveness, brought on by some sort of hormonal imbalance…or prove me wrong. She did not have Ivy’s OK to do it.

   But the reason wasn’t my defending the indefensible. That was the handy excuse. The reason, I believe, was the whining of that true bantam rooster Sarcastro, who yelped out in glee when he learned I was gone.

   It was fine with K. Coble when I had my run-ins with the likes of William, JP, democommie, and That Homeless Guy (because there was no emailed notification to me to cool my jets, as she implied) but I also gladly had run-ins with Sac’o'rotum…and he’s one of the insiders. I think he wormtounged to K Coble…’get rid of that Knife Guy! He’s not One of Us!’

   Which is true. But, Sac’o'rotum’s ’sarcasm’ is weak, and lacks nuance. I’ll pick it up with him where I left off, soon enough.

   Because of my principles!

   And, because he hates the Eagles!

   comment by Serr8d — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 3:36 am

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9. The being sued thing is a “cover my ass” tactic. I cannot afford to defend a lawsuit, so it is a huge fear of mine, being sued. That’s all.

   comment by Ivy — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 4:18 am

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10. Thanks for clearing that up BBI. Without any other side to this story I guess that settles that.

    Nobody digs pointless arguing more than me but you’re still going to have these same issues going forward.

    Don’t aggravate an ulcer over this stuff. Out of all the things to worry about in this world, people arguing on the internet is at the bottom of the list. Fun to watch but as I said - pointless.

    comment by Brian — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 9:37 am

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11. I don’t know the answer. Decide for yourself. This was the post at MCB that was pulled:

    Peace on Earth and Goodwill to Men, Part II
    from Music City Bloggers by Number9

    I was shocked with the extreme hatred from Dave Lindorff in the first “Peace on Earth and Goodwill to Men” . Lindorff gleefully looks forward to the extermination of millions of wingnut Red Staters. Imagine my surprise to find out we have a Dave Lindorff right here in our back yard.

    Meet the compassionate RoR!. I had thought that RoR! was just a passionate liberal progressive or perhaps a social democrat. Now I don’t know what to think. What do you think of people who write snuff pieces?

    RoR! was upset with a post from Ivy. So he wrote a snuff piece a la Dave Lindorff. More a Mini-Me than a clone, he just wants one rich wingnut to die. Doesn’t that seem to be one to many? All kidding aside, it isn’t cool. In any way.

    Nice guy. You may want to keep an eye on the silverware at the next blogger meet up.

    Why is it the people trying to save us want to kill us?

    comment by Number9 — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 9:42 am

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12. Prior to writing the snuff piece about me I had no problem with RoR!.

    I’ve got a good sense of humor. I didn’t see it as funny. At all.

    Kevin called me evil at MCB because I told him to get a job. RoR! made the usual “you write about guns” so you’re a bad person. I get from time to time. All well and good. But you write a piece of trash like RoR! about me did and I don’t turn the other cheek. So I just highlighted how RoR! rolls. Tempers flared and the post was history.

    This happened because I, along with others, told Kevin to “get a job” and RoR! had a little psycho fit.

    Free Country. I will tell Kevin what I want when I want. The consensus is that I over reacted on RoR!’s little Stephen King piece. Again, Free Country. I’ll over react if I want to.

    There is nothing actionable in my post. That is a fantasy. RoR! just didn’t want his friends to see what a nutjob he is. Oh, you don’t think that is actionable do you? Oh God, now I have put the Buffet out of business. Stop me before I post again.

    comment by Number9 — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 9:56 am

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13. So that post was about you?

    Who hasn’t told Kevin to get a job?

    Hell, he could be a veterinarian from all of the gift-horses he’s looked in the mouth.

    comment by Brian — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 10:21 am

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14. Yeah it was. But RoR! declared “Allegory”, so he can’t be held accountable. Special rules apply because RoR! is, special. Where is the “reason” part of that screen name?

    If you or sser8d or myself or anyone else had written a snuff post people would raise hell. They would lose their fucking minds. But a gay guy does it and it is “allegory”. Two way street my ass. Same thing with Kevin and JP. Special rules for special people. Too many rules, too many special people.

    comment by Number9 — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 10:32 am

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15. Well, Number9, since you’re over here and we’re having a frank discussion and all, I noticed you didn’t come out in defense of me (the only blogger who did was…well, no one did, really, except Joe Lance, in a blanket defense, which is better than no defense I suppose). At least you didn’t overtly join the bantam cock crowd (Jay was another bantam cock, crowing…”Glad to see the additions. I had ror in the pool and thought I’d lost for sure after the first announcement.” Another sac’o’shit).

    Since I don’t really read Say Uncle (I get my gunny stuff from Cowboy Blob and Chris Byrne, because Uncle’s politics I don’t like) I did enjoy reading your posts at MCB…except for your above-mentioned piece on ROR!. What was the point of dragging a blogger into the Big House and cutting him to pieces? At a community blog, with ROR! still at the time a community member (who didn’t have your posting privileges BTW) you took it a bit far.

    Couldn’t you (our could you/would you) have done that at Uncle’s place?

    Just asking…

    comment by serr8d — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 10:49 am

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16. I tune out of the Nashville blogosphere for a year and look what happens.

    Even after doing the research, it seems like much ado about nothing. Methinks it’s time to all join together and get Kevin a job. Oh that’s right, even if we did, his complete lack of a work ethic would render the effort worthless.

    Oh well, so much for togetherness.

    comment by Preston Taylor Holmes — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 11:00 am

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17. I noticed you didn’t come out in defense of me

    I didn’t think a defense was needed. I have seen this before at other blogs and knew the material would hit the fan.

    Simple rule, don’t ban more than one person in a week. I don’t like bans, but to say you will never ban anyone it just setting yourself up for a lot of headaches. I give this new policy six weeks at MCB. The Wild West policy won’t work at MCB. Even KnoxBlab has banned people. It is the most Wild West blog in the State.

    What was the point of dragging a blogger into the Big House and cutting him to pieces?

    It’s called boundaries. You encourage behavior you prefer and you discourage behavior against your best interest.

    Why do you support RoR! serr8d? If you read his blog you see what a hypocrite he is. Some of the stuff about faith is just garbage.

    There are a lot of strange alliances at MCB. It is like a bizarre version of the TV show “Survivor”.

    comment by Number9 — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 11:20 am

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18. For the record, me and KC have not been on great terms since late ‘06 but with her now gone there is not even a centrist with oversight. Ivy may come the closest but I don’t know her positions on much.

    If you’re going to have a site tailored to fit Lisa, Jeff, William, the Homeless Guy, Jackson, and Mack - you might need to whittle your definition of “community” down to a sniping forum for veterans of the Symbionese Liberation Army.

    comment by Brian — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 11:55 am

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19. The comments of the post are gone but the so called cutting RoR! up was actually just quoting what he had written. I was surprised at the number of people who thought it was a low blow to quote what RoR! had written.

    I don’t understand that. You write it, you own it.

    You do asked the question that has puzzled some people. Why not engage RoR! on his website. That would have rewarded the behavior and no one reads that site. The other reason was it started on MCB with the Kevin foolishness. So in terms of continuity it should end on MCB.

    The double standard that you can’t hit back because some people have protected status needs to end. RoR!, JP, Kevin, and dolphin hit just as hard as anyone else. They need to be treated just like everyone else.

    comment by Number9 — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 11:59 am

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20. I’m always, for some reason, on the side of underdogs, in this case for the wrong reasons I suppose. But that principle thing gets me by hanging around my neck like a month-old dead albatross.

    That’s why I’m still a 28%-er, and won’t loudly criticize President Bush while he’s still in office and we’re still at War. Because we are at war, and there’s young men over there still dying, it’s just not something I’m going to do.

    Stubborn old jackass, me.

    comment by serr8d — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 12:35 pm

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21. You saw RoR!, Kevin, and JP as underdogs? How?

    comment by Number9 — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 12:49 pm

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22. Well, look at their blogs.

    I mean, just.

    How do you run a blog from under teh bridge, anyways?

    comment by serr8d — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 1:21 pm

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23. I don’t want to live in a world where homeless people are panhandling me at the intersection for spare bandwidth.

    If you’re homeless and have a new laptop computer, you can kiss the fattest part of my ass.

    comment by Brian — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 1:31 pm

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24. Thanks, Brian, I’m taking this all way more in stride than I would have pre-Christmas break. I’m trying to look at this very dispassionately instead of “Oh, noes! Mah baybee!”. I think I’m doing a fairly good job of it.

    #9- the biggest reason we pulled your post is because we all felt it was a post more suited for your personal blog instead of our community blog. I get what you mean about “it started at MCB, let’s end it at MCB”, but I think taking swipes at one of our community members is not conducive to that whole “community” thing.

    As far as whether or not I’m a centrist, I’m not. I’m a big pansy liberal, I’m afraid. But I do think I can balance things. I’m trying to work out a model that is balanced for both sides. And I know you guys will let me know when I’m going wrong, so there’s always that.

    comment by Ivy — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 1:35 pm

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25. Although I don’t get involved much in the day to day melee at MCB, I hope you can keep it a local touchstone worth checking daily.

    Make some money the old-fashioned way. Find some restaurants who can pay your bandwidth costs in exchange for advertising space. Cheap $20 a month ads and see how it works. 10% off if you mention you saw it here. And so on. If it works “yay”, if she don’t then they lost $20.

    If just one person goes, the ad paid for itself.

    comment by Brian — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 1:52 pm

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26. I wasn’t upset the post was pulled. It was provocative. You should have seen the first two versions. I tried to defang it but I wasn’t able to.

    I was upset no one said to RoR! “Hey dude, that isn’t cool”. A guy writes about a horrific death and I have people on my case “You overreacted man”. I don’t know RoR!. But he doesn’t seem right. I’ve never seen anyone write something like that.

    Community means a two way street. And it isn’t at MCB. RoR!, JP, and Kevin have a protected status. They can hit people but no one can hit back. That is why I am upset. I think that was the final straw for Kat. There are more people than the two of us that share that feeling.

    The Wild West idea won’t work. It would if it was a two way street. That is what MCB needs. But there are so many protectors and enablers I don’t know if a two way street is possible at MCB. It needs to be a benevolent dictatorship not a democracy.

    comment by Number9 — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 2:09 pm

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27. I figured the post for nonsensical ranting, and approached it with humor (the dawgs eating the rich conservative dude just cracked me up!)

    I’ve read a lot of bullshiite, and that was right up there with the best. Let ‘em ramble; but if that dawg shows up for me I’ll have a nice report waiting for him…

    comment by serr8d — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 5:30 pm

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28. I went over there and read that, and I have to say that the commenter posting as “Claudia” has the common-sense view, in my opinion. Paraphrasing: If you can’t stand the fat popping off the bacon you’re frying, go vegan and/or get out of the kitchen (we’ve seen that) — and, if you’re letting a blog commenter devastate you, you have issues that need addressing elsewhere, perhaps in a clinical setting.

    comment by Donna Locke — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 6:58 pm

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29. It’s times like these that I’m glad I’m like a distant cousin of the Nashville blogosphere. I stick my toe in, and when it gets stupid, I can stick my toe out.

    comment by Lee — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 9:22 pm

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30. Hey now, I live here and I’m not really in it. I went to two events very early on because I know the Error of Good Feelings ends once everybody knows where the other stands.

    Plus, I’ll still call bullshit on you even if I like you.

    Now Donna, I’d like to think I’ve sent a few people running to their therapists over the years.

    comment by Brian — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 10:54 pm

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31. Sarcastro, who yelped out in glee…
    I may sue.
    …and he’s one of the insiders.
    Now, THAT’s funny.
    I think he wormtounged to K Coble…
    Now you’re just jealous.
    But, Sac’o’rotum’s ’sarcasm’ is weak, and lacks nuance.
    I’m definitely going to sue.

    comment by Sarcastro — Sunday, January 6, 2008 @ 11:19 pm

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32. Now Donna, I’d like to think I’ve sent a few people running to their therapists over the years.

    Or toward the Pacific. In a chain reaction, of course.

    Oh well. I do think most blog comment sections are snakepits and some bloggers are are brats, if not snakes, but I don’t see that any of it is worth losing one’s calm over. Why cede someone that power over you? The naturally sarcastic have an easier trip through the Sarcastic Sea of blogdom, I guess. And the guys don’t seem to mind the slings and arrows as much as the women do. The outright liars are another story. But that can be countered, usually.

    Do your own thing and don’t let the critics get you down. It ain’t worth it. Whatever the critics are criticizing about you is quite often the very thing about you worth keeping and developing. The thing that sets you apart from everyone else. I learned that when I began writing unconventional fiction.

    comment by Donna Locke — Monday, January 7, 2008 @ 1:04 am

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33. We only allow prescription strength sarcasm here. The kind you have to show Photo ID for at the pharmacy and sign your name in a registry to buy.

    The same Photo ID that is a poll tax if we’d require it to vote.

    comment by Brian — Monday, January 7, 2008 @ 1:06 am

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34. cockadoodledoo oooooooooo ooooooooooooooo!

    comment by Christian — Wednesday, January 9, 2008 @ 5:44 pm

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35. What the shit is the matter with you?

    comment by Maury Ballstein — Wednesday, January 9, 2008 @ 9:43 pm

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36. First of all, I’m not gay.

    Second, “protected status?” let me know when your act opens at Zanies.

    Third, libel is wrong actionable or not. There is a pattern here. But hey, if you dig that style all I can say is, from one nutjob to another

    See ‘ya, wouldn’t wanna be ‘ya.

    comment by tgos — Thursday, January 10, 2008 @ 8:20 pm

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