Comments on: The Confederate State of the Black Union 2008 http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/02/23/the-confederate-state-of-the-union-2008/ This blog was filmed before a live studio audience Tue, 07 Feb 2012 10:20:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Brian http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/02/23/the-confederate-state-of-the-union-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-241294 Brian Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:57:45 +0000 http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/02/23/the-confederate-state-of-black-america-2008/#comment-241294 Any legitimacy Tavis Smiley's program sought to have was completely undermined by his and the complete inability of anyone on his panel to hold any other panel member "personally responsible" (there's that theme again) for the absolutely nutball things that were said and cheered by the audience. Those Dick Gregory videos are damning to any moral authority the Rev. Tavis Luther DuBois seeks to bestow upon himself. And consequently Hillary Clinton who came to pander in the face of some rather extremist opinions spoken just moments before she took the stage. Luckily, the C-Span cameras were there. Anyone is free to hit their archives and spend 8 hours watching this thing from start to finish like I did. The idea of dozens of white legislators, authors, professors, and so on coming together to manifest "the white agenda" is abhorrent and so was this. The so called "youth" they showcased - the teen from Memphis and the Stephanie Woodward character....I don't believe it would have been possible to set the bar any lower in terms of their contribution. The teen said "End No Child Left Behind" and the audience erupts and Smiley drones on ad nauseum about how he's "got competition from a young, educated brother droppin' serious knowledge" so to speak. Woodward was all over the place and incoherent. The only other agenda at work here was to increase the stock of Tavis Smiley as a legitimate social commentator - which he's completely incapable of being. For someone trying to become engaged in politics, there are better examples than these self-anointed leaders of the black community. Try looking up Dr. Carol Swain at Vanderbilt some time. Any legitimacy Tavis Smiley’s program sought to have was completely undermined by his and the complete inability of anyone on his panel to hold any other panel member “personally responsible” (there’s that theme again) for the absolutely nutball things that were said and cheered by the audience.

Those Dick Gregory videos are damning to any moral authority the Rev. Tavis Luther DuBois seeks to bestow upon himself. And consequently Hillary Clinton who came to pander in the face of some rather extremist opinions spoken just moments before she took the stage.

Luckily, the C-Span cameras were there. Anyone is free to hit their archives and spend 8 hours watching this thing from start to finish like I did. The idea of dozens of white legislators, authors, professors, and so on coming together to manifest “the white agenda” is abhorrent and so was this.

The so called “youth” they showcased – the teen from Memphis and the Stephanie Woodward character….I don’t believe it would have been possible to set the bar any lower in terms of their contribution. The teen said “End No Child Left Behind” and the audience erupts and Smiley drones on ad nauseum about how he’s “got competition from a young, educated brother droppin’ serious knowledge” so to speak. Woodward was all over the place and incoherent.

The only other agenda at work here was to increase the stock of Tavis Smiley as a legitimate social commentator – which he’s completely incapable of being.

For someone trying to become engaged in politics, there are better examples than these self-anointed leaders of the black community.

Try looking up Dr. Carol Swain at Vanderbilt some time.

]]> By: just a reasonable person http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/02/23/the-confederate-state-of-the-union-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-241109 just a reasonable person Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:26:35 +0000 http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/02/23/the-confederate-state-of-black-america-2008/#comment-241109 I may not completely agree with you paraphrasing, but I too sat through the entire thing. I sought to see how leadership was representing the black community, but I never really heard the panel collectively address the issues of the black agenda. One thing I did take away was the theme of accountability for yourself, your representives, and your government. I didn't necessarily think that was one groups, majority or minority, agenda; that is just how I was raised: Take responsibility for your own actions, hold those elected officials to their word, and actively participate in political issues because it is your national/state/city duty. The other thing I took away was being referred to as a "cracker". I'm not sure why that is socially acceptable and why no one is outraged by the racial slur. I guess I took for granted being raised to treat EVERYONE equal, with respect, and that racial slurs weren't acceptable in any shape, form, or fashion. I have to say that while they might have had something intelligent to say individually, collectively I didn't get a clear picture of what the "black agenda" was. As a youth trying to actively engage in politics, I would have been quite disappointed in the leadership I watched there. I may not completely agree with you paraphrasing, but I too sat through the entire thing. I sought to see how leadership was representing the black community, but I never really heard the panel collectively address the issues of the black agenda. One thing I did take away was the theme of accountability for yourself, your representives, and your government. I didn’t necessarily think that was one groups, majority or minority, agenda; that is just how I was raised: Take responsibility for your own actions, hold those elected officials to their word, and actively participate in political issues because it is your national/state/city duty. The other thing I took away was being referred to as a “cracker”. I’m not sure why that is socially acceptable and why no one is outraged by the racial slur. I guess I took for granted being raised to treat EVERYONE equal, with respect, and that racial slurs weren’t acceptable in any shape, form, or fashion. I have to say that while they might have had something intelligent to say individually, collectively I didn’t get a clear picture of what the “black agenda” was. As a youth trying to actively engage in politics, I would have been quite disappointed in the leadership I watched there.

]]> By: Teresa Morgan http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/02/23/the-confederate-state-of-the-union-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-240781 Teresa Morgan Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:20:11 +0000 http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/02/23/the-confederate-state-of-black-america-2008/#comment-240781 Please don't be dissin' such vital discussion. I learned the word "contextualize" and have been able to work it into my vocabulary quite nicely thanks to the amazing intellectual conversationalizing at this year's SOBU. I also learned that us white "foke" were responsible for Hurricane Katrina which leaves me feeling pretty guilty - especially now that I've accepted responsibility for that slavery thing a couple hundred years ago. When will our evil reign ever end? Please don’t be dissin’ such vital discussion.

I learned the word “contextualize” and have been able to work it into my vocabulary quite nicely thanks to the amazing intellectual conversationalizing at this year’s SOBU.

I also learned that us white “foke” were responsible for Hurricane Katrina which leaves me feeling pretty guilty – especially now that I’ve accepted responsibility for that slavery thing a couple hundred years ago.

When will our evil reign ever end?

]]> By: Preston Taylor Holmes http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/02/23/the-confederate-state-of-the-union-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-239904 Preston Taylor Holmes Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:12:49 +0000 http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/02/23/the-confederate-state-of-black-america-2008/#comment-239904 Wow. How did you sit through this? I'm certain you made it sound much more palatable than it actually was. Thank you for doing such a service for the rest of us. Wow. How did you sit through this?

I’m certain you made it sound much more palatable than it actually was. Thank you for doing such a service for the rest of us.

]]> By: Brian http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/02/23/the-confederate-state-of-the-union-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-239781 Brian Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:34:48 +0000 http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/02/23/the-confederate-state-of-black-america-2008/#comment-239781 Because even though I'm free, I was still a slave - <a href="http://www.moviewavs.com/php/sounds/?id=bst&media=MP3S&type=Movies&movie=Dont_Be_A_Menace_To_South_Central_While_Drinking_Your_Juice_In_The_Hood&quote=message.txt&file=message.mp3" rel="nofollow">in the mind...</a> Because even though I’m free, I was still a slave – in the mind…

]]> By: a weasal contractor http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/02/23/the-confederate-state-of-the-union-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-239523 a weasal contractor Sun, 24 Feb 2008 07:36:50 +0000 http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/02/23/the-confederate-state-of-black-america-2008/#comment-239523 How did you manage to watch all of that without your brain leaping out of your head and running away?? How did you manage to watch all of that without your brain leaping out of your head and running away??

]]> By: Yiddish Steel http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/02/23/the-confederate-state-of-the-union-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-239210 Yiddish Steel Sun, 24 Feb 2008 01:22:46 +0000 http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/02/23/the-confederate-state-of-black-america-2008/#comment-239210 It ain't nuttin' but a "C""O""N"-spiracy by 'da white man! Brian, would you say that Cornel West is freejackin' his speech the way that Obamessiah has done this past week?! Word! It ain’t nuttin’ but a “C”"O”"N”-spiracy by ‘da white man!

Brian, would you say that Cornel West is freejackin’ his speech the way that Obamessiah has done this past week?!

Word!

]]> By: womanofabomination http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/02/23/the-confederate-state-of-the-union-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-238954 womanofabomination Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:12:38 +0000 http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/02/23/the-confederate-state-of-black-america-2008/#comment-238954 Holy shit! Her civil rights background cannot be challenged! Ask Peggy Noonan about that one. Holy shit! Her civil rights background cannot be challenged!

Ask Peggy Noonan about that one.

]]> By: womanofabomination http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/02/23/the-confederate-state-of-the-union-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-238948 womanofabomination Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:09:12 +0000 http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/02/23/the-confederate-state-of-black-america-2008/#comment-238948 How one can spend so much time saying nothing! How one can spend so much time saying nothing!

]]> By: womanofabomination http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/02/23/the-confederate-state-of-the-union-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-238934 womanofabomination Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:57:43 +0000 http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/02/23/the-confederate-state-of-black-america-2008/#comment-238934 I'll just watch while you bear the pain. I’ll just watch while you bear the pain.

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