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		<title>By: annika</title>
		<link>http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/07/11/but-we-are-a-nation-of-whiners/comment-page-1/#comment-349012</link>
		<dc:creator>annika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The worst part about waiting in line at Outback Steakhouse is that after all that waiting, all you get is an Outback steak.  It&#039;s the Sizzler of the 2000&#039;s, man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The worst part about waiting in line at Outback Steakhouse is that after all that waiting, all you get is an Outback steak.  It&#8217;s the Sizzler of the 2000&#8217;s, man.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric S.</title>
		<link>http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/07/11/but-we-are-a-nation-of-whiners/comment-page-1/#comment-348022</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just dropped by to say that I miss you losers. Drop me a line sometime.

Or, start reading Brad Thor books and join his reader forum.

 :mrgreen:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just dropped by to say that I miss you losers. Drop me a line sometime.</p>
<p>Or, start reading Brad Thor books and join his reader forum.</p>
<p> <img src='http://sixmeatbuffet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lemur King</title>
		<link>http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/07/11/but-we-are-a-nation-of-whiners/comment-page-1/#comment-347908</link>
		<dc:creator>Lemur King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee, you make a good point but I&#039;d make a distinction for some cases.  

Negative and critical can look like the same thing.  Pessimism is purely negative response.  Criticism is negative in it&#039;s assessment but (good) criticism offers an alternative to the status quo.

My take on Gramm (as if anyone cared) is that he nailed it but it wasn&#039;t the best time, place, or manner given his current position.  Straight talk is a thing I treasure, but you have to use a carrot with the stick if you&#039;re in a position to be noticed.  

Yep, Cranky - you need to either be cold or hot on the martini thing - lukewarm half-measures are self defeating.   :smile:   Tell me it involved gin... (I&#039;m dry these days but I can dream)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee, you make a good point but I&#8217;d make a distinction for some cases.  </p>
<p>Negative and critical can look like the same thing.  Pessimism is purely negative response.  Criticism is negative in it&#8217;s assessment but (good) criticism offers an alternative to the status quo.</p>
<p>My take on Gramm (as if anyone cared) is that he nailed it but it wasn&#8217;t the best time, place, or manner given his current position.  Straight talk is a thing I treasure, but you have to use a carrot with the stick if you&#8217;re in a position to be noticed.  </p>
<p>Yep, Cranky &#8211; you need to either be cold or hot on the martini thing &#8211; lukewarm half-measures are self defeating.   <img src='http://sixmeatbuffet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':smile:' class='wp-smiley' />    Tell me it involved gin&#8230; (I&#8217;m dry these days but I can dream)</p>
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		<title>By: Cranky</title>
		<link>http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/07/11/but-we-are-a-nation-of-whiners/comment-page-1/#comment-347890</link>
		<dc:creator>Cranky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 11:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I re-read my comment. I should have quit at 2 on my 3 martini lunch.

I only meant that the media spin had me totally sold on their pessimism. Any minute, the Japanese were going to send out eviction notices because they owned all our real-estate.  I was a college student at the time and believed that Conservatives wanted to nuke the world, bankrupt the country and drain us of our vital fluids.

When the world didn&#039;t end in 1990 I started to grow a little skeptical.

Trish, good point. I&#039;m too lazy to look it up, but there are two quotes side by side on the unemployment rate. The numbers are the same, but one is touting the healthy economy under Clinton and the other is wailing about the sluggish one under Bush 43.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I re-read my comment. I should have quit at 2 on my 3 martini lunch.</p>
<p>I only meant that the media spin had me totally sold on their pessimism. Any minute, the Japanese were going to send out eviction notices because they owned all our real-estate.  I was a college student at the time and believed that Conservatives wanted to nuke the world, bankrupt the country and drain us of our vital fluids.</p>
<p>When the world didn&#8217;t end in 1990 I started to grow a little skeptical.</p>
<p>Trish, good point. I&#8217;m too lazy to look it up, but there are two quotes side by side on the unemployment rate. The numbers are the same, but one is touting the healthy economy under Clinton and the other is wailing about the sluggish one under Bush 43.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The funny thing is some of the blogs I&#039;ve read that are the most negative about what Gramm said, are the same one that are most pessimistic about things in general. 

Nothing more howl inducing than to tell a pessimist that they&#039;re being unnecessarily pessimistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funny thing is some of the blogs I&#8217;ve read that are the most negative about what Gramm said, are the same one that are most pessimistic about things in general. </p>
<p>Nothing more howl inducing than to tell a pessimist that they&#8217;re being unnecessarily pessimistic.</p>
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		<title>By: Lemur King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lemur King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 01:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, Trish... I&#039;m trying to muddle through that.  It&#039;s clever, I sense that - it&#039;s just that there&#039;s the issue of painkillers fogging up my brain (overdid it today)... ok... only scare people who didn&#039;t believe what he said... hm.  

Ok, I&#039;m with you now, I think I caught it.  You&#039;re correct in more ways than one, I believe.

Reagan sure scared the poop out of the soviets.

Richard Nixon was such a bizarre mix of goofy eccentricities, I&#039;m kind of surprised that he was elected.  There&#039;s an awful lot of things done in this day and age that would make the Founding Fathers&#039; skin crawl because it just isn&#039;t rooted in the constitution or oversteps the powers granted to congress/government issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, Trish&#8230; I&#8217;m trying to muddle through that.  It&#8217;s clever, I sense that &#8211; it&#8217;s just that there&#8217;s the issue of painkillers fogging up my brain (overdid it today)&#8230; ok&#8230; only scare people who didn&#8217;t believe what he said&#8230; hm.  </p>
<p>Ok, I&#8217;m with you now, I think I caught it.  You&#8217;re correct in more ways than one, I believe.</p>
<p>Reagan sure scared the poop out of the soviets.</p>
<p>Richard Nixon was such a bizarre mix of goofy eccentricities, I&#8217;m kind of surprised that he was elected.  There&#8217;s an awful lot of things done in this day and age that would make the Founding Fathers&#8217; skin crawl because it just isn&#8217;t rooted in the constitution or oversteps the powers granted to congress/government issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Trish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 01:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is &quot;normal&quot; inflation?  5%, right?
Richard Nixon was so frightened by 5% inflation that he imposed unconstitutional wage and price controls.

It&#039;s all in how you define your terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is &#8220;normal&#8221; inflation?  5%, right?<br />
Richard Nixon was so frightened by 5% inflation that he imposed unconstitutional wage and price controls.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all in how you define your terms.</p>
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		<title>By: Lemur King</title>
		<link>http://sixmeatbuffet.com/archives/2008/07/11/but-we-are-a-nation-of-whiners/comment-page-1/#comment-347608</link>
		<dc:creator>Lemur King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 01:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The collection of survey questions was interesting.  What it didn&#039;t say is what I&#039;d find most interesting - a breakdown of those same answers by party or ideological affiliation - Republican, Conservative, Democrat, Liberal (those four items are each distinctly different from one another).

And I posted my earlier comment w/o clarifying a point to Michele - I used the word &quot;distinction&quot; but I really meant that I need to remember to distinguish between the two in my dealings with my kids.  

I&#039;m hearing the word &quot;recession&quot; bandied about quite a lot recently.  I have two issues with that - we have not yet met the criteria for a depression is my first gripe.  My second is based on an observation - people gasp in terror at the fact that the DJIA is below 11,000.  This isn&#039;t bad, it&#039;s a market adjustment.  Everyone should have been gasping in terror as it rose to 14,000.  At that record high it was a baseless exuberance that came along with this financing debacle.  Talk about the ultimate in mass hedonism.  Now people are crying as if it were the end times just because the market is returning to where it ought to have been all along.  That doesn&#039;t mean that things couldn&#039;t get worse - but the media is not doing anyone any favors when they replace solid facts (boring) with hysteria (sells like hotcakes).

Sorry for prattling on, folks.  Concerned, but more concerned with what I perceive as people&#039;s overreaction to the wrong things.  Hysteria solves nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The collection of survey questions was interesting.  What it didn&#8217;t say is what I&#8217;d find most interesting &#8211; a breakdown of those same answers by party or ideological affiliation &#8211; Republican, Conservative, Democrat, Liberal (those four items are each distinctly different from one another).</p>
<p>And I posted my earlier comment w/o clarifying a point to Michele &#8211; I used the word &#8220;distinction&#8221; but I really meant that I need to remember to distinguish between the two in my dealings with my kids.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m hearing the word &#8220;recession&#8221; bandied about quite a lot recently.  I have two issues with that &#8211; we have not yet met the criteria for a depression is my first gripe.  My second is based on an observation &#8211; people gasp in terror at the fact that the DJIA is below 11,000.  This isn&#8217;t bad, it&#8217;s a market adjustment.  Everyone should have been gasping in terror as it rose to 14,000.  At that record high it was a baseless exuberance that came along with this financing debacle.  Talk about the ultimate in mass hedonism.  Now people are crying as if it were the end times just because the market is returning to where it ought to have been all along.  That doesn&#8217;t mean that things couldn&#8217;t get worse &#8211; but the media is not doing anyone any favors when they replace solid facts (boring) with hysteria (sells like hotcakes).</p>
<p>Sorry for prattling on, folks.  Concerned, but more concerned with what I perceive as people&#8217;s overreaction to the wrong things.  Hysteria solves nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Trish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 01:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lemur King--

Wrong.  Ronald Reagan only scared people who didn&#039;t believe what he said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lemur King&#8211;</p>
<p>Wrong.  Ronald Reagan only scared people who didn&#8217;t believe what he said.</p>
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		<title>By: Lemur King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lemur King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle - great point.  I will have to remember that distinction deserve vs. earned.  

Reagan scared everybody because they believed what he said whether they thought he was an idiot or not.

I think that was because he didn&#039;t actually use a lot of useless rhetoric - it was backed by some sort of real action at some later point.  I would pretty much stand on my head if it meant he could take a third term.

After Nixon, Ford, then Carter... we had no where to go but up, but only by finding a leader with cojones.

I&#039;ll check out the graph once I put the kids down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle &#8211; great point.  I will have to remember that distinction deserve vs. earned.  </p>
<p>Reagan scared everybody because they believed what he said whether they thought he was an idiot or not.</p>
<p>I think that was because he didn&#8217;t actually use a lot of useless rhetoric &#8211; it was backed by some sort of real action at some later point.  I would pretty much stand on my head if it meant he could take a third term.</p>
<p>After Nixon, Ford, then Carter&#8230; we had no where to go but up, but only by finding a leader with cojones.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll check out the graph once I put the kids down.</p>
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