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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tis true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tis true.</p>
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		<title>By: Swamp Rabbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swamp Rabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 00:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops&#039; (property),,,,  So much beer,,,so little time,,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops&#8217; (property),,,,  So much beer,,,so little time,,</p>
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		<title>By: Swamp Rabbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swamp Rabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 00:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well good,,,,,, I&#039;ve paid my last mortage payment,, in fact,,, I&#039;m not gonna&#039; pay my propritey TAX&#039;S for 09&#039; either....

OsamaHusseinIslamObama 08&#039; (D-World)
(the terrorist choice)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well good,,,,,, I&#8217;ve paid my last mortage payment,, in fact,,, I&#8217;m not gonna&#8217; pay my propritey TAX&#8217;S for 09&#8242; either&#8230;.</p>
<p>OsamaHusseinIslamObama 08&#8242; (D-World)<br />
(the terrorist choice)</p>
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		<title>By: Feisty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feisty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 23:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You were told that you could just refinance after 5 years into a fixed rate loan and not to worry about the adjustment.  Prices on houses were going up monthly and everyone was qualifying; there was no reason to think that wouldn&#039;t happen.  I figured it could only go up so far, but I didn&#039;t think the prices would TANK.  

Many didn&#039;t qualify for conventional/fixed-rate loans during the mortgage boom but had adequate income to make the payments on an ARM and now, even if your credit is okay, your equity may be negative or close to negative, making it so you don&#039;t qualify for a conventional loan since you generally need a 90% LTV for a fixed rate re-fi.  Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac tightened their lending guidelines and many of the sub-prime lenders have long since gone out of business.  Of course, there are still the problems of people having bought more house than they can afford.  I, at least, bought quite a bit less house than I could afford.  I did that right along with being one of the rare people to find a home under market value, but I almost F&#039;d myself on the ARM thing.  Like I said, there would have been no way at the time for the average joe to predict the extreme tightening of the lending guidelines coupled with negative equity.  

Foreclosure bail-outs won&#039;t help if the people can&#039;t afford the payments anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You were told that you could just refinance after 5 years into a fixed rate loan and not to worry about the adjustment.  Prices on houses were going up monthly and everyone was qualifying; there was no reason to think that wouldn&#8217;t happen.  I figured it could only go up so far, but I didn&#8217;t think the prices would TANK.  </p>
<p>Many didn&#8217;t qualify for conventional/fixed-rate loans during the mortgage boom but had adequate income to make the payments on an ARM and now, even if your credit is okay, your equity may be negative or close to negative, making it so you don&#8217;t qualify for a conventional loan since you generally need a 90% LTV for a fixed rate re-fi.  Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac tightened their lending guidelines and many of the sub-prime lenders have long since gone out of business.  Of course, there are still the problems of people having bought more house than they can afford.  I, at least, bought quite a bit less house than I could afford.  I did that right along with being one of the rare people to find a home under market value, but I almost F&#8217;d myself on the ARM thing.  Like I said, there would have been no way at the time for the average joe to predict the extreme tightening of the lending guidelines coupled with negative equity.  </p>
<p>Foreclosure bail-outs won&#8217;t help if the people can&#8217;t afford the payments anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 23:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I locked in a fixed rate back in 2003 and had no intention of ever entering an ARM.  Sure, I could have saved about a point to a point and a quarter for a few months - maybe even a year or two before the inevitable happened but this isn&#039;t rocket surgery.

At the time, my credit was about as high as you could get it and I still had to finesse the agent to get the house I did.  Plus, I set my expectations for my house accordingly.  I didn&#039;t run out and buy a bunch of furniture, cars, or any other &quot;keeping up with the Joneses&quot; items.

By that same token, I know some fairly knowledgeable people who take their finances seriously and saw 25-30 year olds running out and buying $300k+ homes.  Everybody thought home prices just go up forever and given enough time they do.

We just happened to have that perfect storm of overaggressive lenders, stupid debtors who are living off of revolving credit, high gas prices, and far too many houses built by cheap illegal labor.

Want your house to be worth something?  Tear down every empty house you find.  That&#039;s just supply and demand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I locked in a fixed rate back in 2003 and had no intention of ever entering an ARM.  Sure, I could have saved about a point to a point and a quarter for a few months &#8211; maybe even a year or two before the inevitable happened but this isn&#8217;t rocket surgery.</p>
<p>At the time, my credit was about as high as you could get it and I still had to finesse the agent to get the house I did.  Plus, I set my expectations for my house accordingly.  I didn&#8217;t run out and buy a bunch of furniture, cars, or any other &#8220;keeping up with the Joneses&#8221; items.</p>
<p>By that same token, I know some fairly knowledgeable people who take their finances seriously and saw 25-30 year olds running out and buying $300k+ homes.  Everybody thought home prices just go up forever and given enough time they do.</p>
<p>We just happened to have that perfect storm of overaggressive lenders, stupid debtors who are living off of revolving credit, high gas prices, and far too many houses built by cheap illegal labor.</p>
<p>Want your house to be worth something?  Tear down every empty house you find.  That&#8217;s just supply and demand.</p>
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		<title>By: Preston Taylor Holmes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Preston Taylor Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, I have to ask, why didn&#039;t they refi out of their ARMs?  And why did they enter into ARMs in the first place?  You&#039;re rolling the dice in a big way with an ARM, not to mention the bazillions of no-down-payment loans.  It still comes down to buying what you can afford, which includes the type of mortgage loan.  Perhaps a lot of these folks should have got they learn on before they started buying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I have to ask, why didn&#8217;t they refi out of their ARMs?  And why did they enter into ARMs in the first place?  You&#8217;re rolling the dice in a big way with an ARM, not to mention the bazillions of no-down-payment loans.  It still comes down to buying what you can afford, which includes the type of mortgage loan.  Perhaps a lot of these folks should have got they learn on before they started buying.</p>
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		<title>By: Feisty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feisty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, my darling, many of these people would have refi&#039;d out of their ARMs and been just fine, but the lending guidlines tightened up so much that only those with moderately good or excellent credit can now, so people are F&#039;d.  Of course, no one has equity in their house anymore and no one can sell them even if they did.  I don&#039;t know what the solution is, but it sucks.  I had to refi an ARM after my payment went up $700 per MONTH, and I just barely qualified despite missing no payments since 2002.  Had I missed one payment, I&#039;d probably have been in foreclosure by now too--</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, my darling, many of these people would have refi&#8217;d out of their ARMs and been just fine, but the lending guidlines tightened up so much that only those with moderately good or excellent credit can now, so people are F&#8217;d.  Of course, no one has equity in their house anymore and no one can sell them even if they did.  I don&#8217;t know what the solution is, but it sucks.  I had to refi an ARM after my payment went up $700 per MONTH, and I just barely qualified despite missing no payments since 2002.  Had I missed one payment, I&#8217;d probably have been in foreclosure by now too&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: Preston Taylor Holmes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Preston Taylor Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn straight Zank.  And Donna, don&#039;t give your relatives the President Junior Debt Consolidation Toll Free number or they&#039;ll never get out from under it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn straight Zank.  And Donna, don&#8217;t give your relatives the President Junior Debt Consolidation Toll Free number or they&#8217;ll never get out from under it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Zank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Zank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The moral ramifications of this shit are bad enough, (letting everyone off the hook for everything) but the monetary cost is gonna be e-frickin-normous. This will create a whole &#039;nuther layer of bureaucratic pencil pushing ass-covering tax dollar wasting &quot;oversight&quot; worse than what we have now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The moral ramifications of this shit are bad enough, (letting everyone off the hook for everything) but the monetary cost is gonna be e-frickin-normous. This will create a whole &#8216;nuther layer of bureaucratic pencil pushing ass-covering tax dollar wasting &#8220;oversight&#8221; worse than what we have now.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna Locke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna Locke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to frame this, Holmes. In full view of some of my relatives when they visit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to frame this, Holmes. In full view of some of my relatives when they visit.</p>
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