Comments on: What Is Wrong With Tyson Chicken?

By: sara

sara — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:16:22 +0000

Just wanted to say Eid Mubarak to all of you and hope you all find peace and happiness.
Islam is a peaceful religion far removed from what some in the media and the ill-informed politicos would have you believe. Our religion teaches self control and striving for submission to God, charity, and family values as well as basic tolerance for others and their beliefs but like every other religion in the world we cannot prevent some from taking to extremes and twisting religious values into something they are not for political power or other gain.
As a Muslim I applaud Tyson for responding to the simple requests of the employees. No one is being forced to do anything….they only requested a simple room to perform their 5 daily prayers…no one who doesn’t want to do it has to have it shoved in their face. Tolerance was shown by creating this…not pandering. Muslims by and large practice their simple faith and daily prayers in quiet oblivion….why should you object to that? And as for allowing them to choose their holidays….as a Muslim for years I had to take Christmas off whether I wanted to or not (incidentally its a recognized holy day for us too….we just don’t have a big celebration like you do) but not allowed to take my own holidays off. This is just allowing that. The best policy is that everyone have a set number of holidays per year and they can choose when to take them off….but perhaps this doesn’t work for a factory environment….i don’t know. Thats a leadership decision.

Anyway…I love to eat Tyson chicken nuggets with A-1 sauce and they will continue to occupy a venerated place in my fridge.

By: michele

michele — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:34:30 +0000

nkay

By: Brian

Brian — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:56:38 +0000

Who said they had to stop practicing their religion? Who said to deny them their god?

I’m talking about a situation where if the situation were reversed and the Christophilic godbotherers demanded the TBN Network blasted from thy Exalted Break Room that the Holy Shit would hit the fan.

You can say incrementalism is in the eye of the beholder but as I mentioned – I have never seen a company build a breakroom for anyone of any religion. This makes it official. I imagine that there were smaller, unofficial concessions along the way (i.e., any women managers over these 700 devout Muslims or is that another accommodation they negotiated out of?)

Rumors of my batshitiness are mildly exaggerated. I have not confused a private company with the federal government and I have not called these Somalian immigrants “illegal”. I’ve said that Tyson has a history of purposefully hiring illegals and they do and that a private company should be allowed to pretty much do whatever they want.

If Tyson is so proud of what they’ve done then they can have the camera crew come back and clear the air.

Nor have I said “hey everybody, let’s start up a boycott and fuckalotta, Tyson”. I’m personally saying that I’m not buying their crap anymore due to a culmination of things and this is just the coup de grace.

By: michele

michele — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:20:08 +0000

“The decision will only apply to workers at the plant who are union members. All other employees at the plant will still have their normal Labor Day holiday.”

Here’s the deal. You go to a war-torn shit hole like Somalia. You tell 700 guys that they can come to the greatest country in the world to work for your company. They leave their homes and cross the ocean, but they have their spiritual beliefs too. Should Tyson tell them you can come, we’ll save your life, if you promise to give up practicing your religion, because it’s a pain in our ass to build you a prayer room or give union employees Eid al Fatr off? That’s bribery. They don’t really have free will to choose because their choice is stay in Somalia and suffer, or come to America and bear the shame of denying their god.

If there were 700 Jews working for Tyson, I guarantee there would be religious concessions for them, and it wouldn’t even be news. If 700 Americans went to work in Saudi Arabia for an oil company, and the company gave them Christmas off, that would be very nice. Of course we would be shocked, because Saudis don’t operate that way, they’re not fair like Americans.

No, I’ve decided it’s not incrementalism, because these employees are not state welfare recipients like in the Netherlands,France etc. They’re not demanding that the whole state practice Sharia, they’re not subject to their own laws. They are immigrants who are contributing, and the union contract offered them a benefit. That’s what the union is there for, to campaign for it’s members.

The only story here is how batshit people are going over it.

By: Lemur King

Lemur King — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:27:25 +0000

SERIOUS freezer burn here.

By: nan

nan — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 02:37:28 +0000

quoting you…”say goodbye to my freezer Tyson. Your products will never see the inside of it again.” my sentiments exactly

By: Brian

Brian — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:42:20 +0000

I don’t believe anyone in this particular scenario is illegal (being from Somalia) but Tyson does have a track record of recruiting illegals.

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By: Cranky

Cranky — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:01:15 +0000

Waitaminute, when did the illegal immigrants embrace Islam?

By: michele

michele — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:00:08 +0000

I meant people who are religious about being lazy. But turned around that way, I’m sure it didn’t sound as silly as I meant it.

Why am I still up?